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Discussion in 'Creative' started by PityPqrty, May 21, 2015.

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Should The Players Have Their Say?

  1. YES!!! We want the old creative.

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  2. NO NOT AT ALL! change it all you want.

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  1. PityPqrty

    PityPqrty Member

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    As a player/WE2 on Mcbrawl creative i would like to protest against this new "merge" loads of people disagree with these changes and i think the players should have a say! We as players want our shout we want our ranks as we did work soo hard for them. Maybe take into consideration that the players are more important than new and "changes". I'd say that about 60% people think this is stupid the rest probably dont know whats going on, I think brawl will lose some loyal players and that will ruin the server why should we not have a say in what is going on? Brawl wouldn't even be known without players so be considerate think about us the players. Keep the ranks, Keep the shout its what makes the server fun don't turn it into something its not think about us!

    Shout, shout is a place where you can invite people to your plot or ask people if they need help the new players will need HELP! Please keep shout its what the players want.

    Ranks, ranks make us players feel that we acheived something AWESOME and we feel that we can help people and in general feel that we as players have new commands to explore and new warps to adventure.

    The point of this thread is that you need to think about what the players want not what the staff think is best, Keep creative the same and change the other stuff KEEP CREATIVE please theres nothing that most players want more on creative and that is just to keep it the same.

    Sorry for the rant but this is what we want.
     
  2. BaeJae

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    PREACHHH
     
  3. DeadRhos

    DeadRhos Minimum Brain Size

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    Thanks for being so rude about the whole situation! I'm going to address the only 2 points you have:

    1) "we won't be able to shout" - yes you will

    2) "ranks are better" - no they're not, it's fairer if everyone has the same opportunities. If you were a new player would you prefer a server which restricted its features potentially for months, or one that allowed you to WorldEdit from the moment you logged in?

    If you really want a rank go and have a look at my "trusted rank" post on the Build section of the forums.

    Everyone's resistant to change and I appreciate that, but this is a good thing that's happening! Enjoy it!
     
  4. ReubenS

    ReubenS Well-Known Member

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    I don't see any major reason why the old creative will be better than the new one. Are people just angry because they'll lose their plot(s)? I bet there's some way they could bring those into McBuild

    McBuild

    Pros:
    1. Everyone has world edit
    2. Much bigger map
    3. Since its your own map, you don't have ugly plots next to you
    4. Easier for people to see your creations
    5. More Privacy if you want it
    6. McBuild has shout too? idk what you're rambling about
    7. VoxelSniper - Only moderators can use it, but you can probably ask them to do it for you
    8. You can make maps for Gamemodes and very easily show it on the forums (No need for people to download the map to see it in person)

    Cons:
    1. More lag due to everyone having access to World Edit (its not bad surprisingly)
    2. The maps could overwhelm some people because of the large size
    3. Griefing is much easier because of World Edit (Golden Rule: Don't perm strangers.)
     
  5. PityPqrty

    PityPqrty Member

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    Thanks for making your opinion clear but, the people of creative know what they want and thats for creative to stay the same
     
  6. potatoesky

    potatoesky Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but what about the people who have worked so hard for their applications before this merging thing is going to happen? It's unfair for them since they had to spend so much time and effort in their apps for months to get world edit and now new people who join will get world edit without even doing any work. You wouldn't understand even if I explained.
     
  7. ReubenS

    ReubenS Well-Known Member

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    Well what DO they want? I feel like it isn't because the current one has better features, but more of I don't wanna lose my builder rank
     
  8. ReubenS

    ReubenS Well-Known Member

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    Give me three legitimate reasons why the current one should stay. Don't list crappy reasons like "All my friends r there" or " I don't want to lose my plot" also "new players don't deserve world edit, because I worked hard for a rank"
     
  9. DeadRhos

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    Honestly, I understand how annoying it is. Back on MCPVP, 2 players were promoted to ModPlus in order to make maps - nobody was consulted, they had the power to do anything that we could, and it was really unfair. But, there was a reason for it: they were making maps that would benefit MCPVP, so we accepted it.

    The parallel with Brawl Creative is that this merge is honestly the best thing for Brawl at the moment, and if Chap didn't believe it it wouldn't have happened. All we ask from you is to accept this. You're not losing any features except a coloured word before your name and the limit on WorldEdit, and you're gaining many more awesome ones in the process.

    People talk a lot about fairness but that's what we're achieving by doing this. I'm sorry if you believe that it's not a good thing for Brawl, but please, give it a week and see how you feel afterwards.
     
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  10. potatoesky

    potatoesky Well-Known Member

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    I'm gonna try understanding people from MCPvP for a moment.

    You all just want your creative server back, and I understand. Losing your favourite server is sad and that's why you want the merging to happen. Think about it our way too. Please. It's not even just losing our ranks, it's like we're losing the whole creative server and it's getting replaced. I'm not gonna lie, I do like the ideas of the MCBuild, but I just really like Brawl's creative server the way it is. If you think about it, all of us are wanting the same thing; not losing our favourite server (but just in a different way).
     
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  11. PityPqrty

    PityPqrty Member

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    1. people are used to this one because they know a lot bout it

    2. Not everyone has WE that prevents lag

    3. becuase we love the server the way it is and we dont want anyone to change it
     
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  13. DeadRhos

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    I understand it holds sentimental value, but what have you got to lose? What does Brawl Creative offer that MinecraftBuild doesn't?

    This is a legitimate question; if there's something about the server you really want to keep I'll do my best to see if we can have it included in build.
     
  14. ReubenS

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    1. people are used to this one because they know a lot bout it

    When you strip it down to the basics, what is a creative server? It's a place to build awesome stuff while having a community around to show your creations to. Mcbuild is superior in almost every way (building wise), allowing more creativity and making large creations. Creative servers shouldn't be based around the fact that it is has a simpler UI.

    2. Not everyone has WE that prevents lag

    A legitimate concern. It's surprisingly not that bad, especially if you split the playerbase into a few servers to reduce the lag. Reducing the WE maximum block would lessen the stress on the servers even more

    3. because we love the server the way it is and we don't want anyone to change it

    Not really a legit reason, there are plenty of plot servers to play on. It seems like your just clinging on because you're used to it, not because it's better
     
  15. Tenshirox

    Tenshirox C a p t u r e F l a g

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    "Let the players have a say!"

    "Thank you for your opinion but we know what we want"

    I think you meant "listen to the people who agree with me!"
     
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