Moderation on Hg

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It's their servers, they can promote whomever they wish.

 

I agree with chicken but we still have to go with the choice brawl choses as it's their server it's not mcpvp anymore

 

After reading the part about Daan, I must say I could not continue reading this.

Necessary requirements for being on the staff team include TS and forums activity. We were all once new, and we all once had to build our activity up to deserve it. Being an mcpvp veteran yet new to our forums is no excuse. Daan is right for mentioning the necessary requirements, regardless of which server he moderates. No matter what server it is, it is important for a moderator to be active in all three fields.

Besides - you can't even apply for HG yet. If there's no prefix, then don't apply for it.


If you wish to PM me about Matts application, that's fine.

 

Look... To me, the forum and TS requirements help to weed out those who only play the game. It helps to highlight the players who aren't just playing a game, but are ALSO an active part of the Brawl community.
Yes, veterans definitely have a lot of knowledge, experience, and skill at playing the game... but being a mod is a LOT more! You have to be able to work with other people and the community. There is no feasible alternative to proving that you are able to communicate effectively than being active on the forums and TS.

I agree with McBrawl's policies. I do not want veterans of the game who do not participate in the community being moderators. I have never been falsely banned, though goodness gracious people have tried to get me banned. I have never seen a mod who was not friendly and willing to help me in anyway they could. I am sure there are mods who get on after having a long day and snap at annoying players; I just haven't seen it. My personal experiences with all of the staff, including King_Daan, lead me to be incapable of praising them enough!

 

First off, you can not even apply for HG, CTF or Build yet, so all those applications are auto-denied. Of course most of these applicants didn't show how active they can be to us yet, but they were primarily denied because you simply can not apply for these servers yet.

Second, we changed it so all Moderators have their rank on all servers so they could moderate on any Brawl server they play on and are not limited to their first server. Of course this also means they know less about some servers, but our rules are globally the same so they can still moderate. And of course none of our staff members know every detail about HG, but these servers are a part of Brawl now so we have to and we will moderate them. Our staff members will learn all these details over time, but you can't expect us to know everything and especially not the whole community after one week.

Third, if you want to become a Moderator on Brawl, you need to show US, the Brawl Staff, that you are mature, trustworthy and active. It is great if you were already active back on MCPVP, but we can not judge this so you will have to show it again.

There have been false bans and problems, but we unbanned all these being wrongly banned and tried to solve the problems. If you don't give us a chance to show that we can indeed moderate servers and work with the community, of course there will be more problems. I feel like most former MCPVP members already judged Brawl even though you didn't know us at all until 3 weeks ago. Trust me, it needs a lot more time to know how Brawl works and you should not just always look at everything in a negative way before you know it.
Regarding your concern about false bans because of HG kits: Personally I already read through the descriptions of all kits and we also talked to Nom about kits that might make us believe the person is hacking, just like Anchor.

In conclusion:
We are trying to integrate the HG, CTF and Build communities into the Brawl Network. This of course includes Brawl staff moderating former MCPVP servers. The other way round, former MCPVP Moderators coming to Brawl will also have the global Moderator rank as soon as they went through their trial time.
We do not want to have CTF, HG and Build as seperate communities, we want to integrate them into the Brawl community.

 

Yes, he may have been a mod over at McPvP, but Brawl is a completely different server. He needs to show that he is active on here before he can be promoted. His application was also lacking detail and looked like he put no effort into it.

 

I can say only this: People from McPvP need to understand that Brawl and McPvP are one in the same thing now, and brawlers should understand that McPvP was a different server with a whole different community and feel. Although, seeing how brawl did buy McPvP out of bankrupcy, what happened on McPvP won't matter to what the brawl staff think, as sad as that is. McPvP was going to close either way, and we can all be grateful that we will still be able to play hg and ctf.

 

Daan is not mod on HG, he currently has a pink name on it because he is brawl staff.

I've been moderating HG for almost a week now and have banned hackers 24/7.
You cannot apply for HG staff yet, that will come in the future. As Roke stated, you need to show us you are actively helping in game, on the forums and on Teamspeak in order for us to trust you.

 

Hopefully McPvP's HG moderators will get there rank asap because @ldr_chicken is right. We need moderators that understand the game and will not ban a person who is using the Anchor kit because he would have used AntiKnockback.
We will see how it goes.. many hacker will get banned since all hackers can go on Brawl's servers to hack once again in HG.

We will see

 

Don't judge a book by its cover.

 

I agree, definitely.
But I feel it also needs to be said that we should have players from Brawl and that have come from McPvP, if we try to take all the moderators from Brawl, that will obviously be bad, but if we only take experienced players from McPvP we will progress backwards in this merge.
We need a balance ya know?

This means any players from McPvP will have a disadvantage in staff apps because we have just got here. We cannot reasonably have as many forum posts as people here, and that needs to be ignored. If you are thinking about activity then you should think
- How often you see them
- How many posts they have relative to the time they have spent here
- Any normal traits you want in a moderator

Not their total amount of posts, that should not matter at all if someone like Matt is applying for HG mod.

 

We have a list of 30 previous McPvP mods who are interested in becoming staff on HG, CTF, and Build. As you can see, 30 new staff members will double our current staff amount. It's a huge transition, so we're making sure they all know what's going on, and what their roles are.

We require all staff members to be active in-game, on the forums, and on TS to insure they're familiar with how Brawl works, and so we know how they truly act around other members of the community. Once the previous McPvP staff members are promoted, we'll expect them to hold the same standards; however, we will be more lenient towards them the first few weeks.

By saying 'not experienced enough to moderate Brawl', KingDaan means he doesn't yet understand how Brawl handles disciplinary actions and such. Of course he has more experience with HG, and we know that. However, Brawl and McPvP's protocols are very different. We're trying to make this easier on them by changing our staff system up, but that's one thing Brawl moderators have over the McPvP moderators. Like I said, we need to prep the previous McPvP staff before simply tossing them in an environment they aren't familiar with.

All of our current mods are basically chat mods. They don't have the power to ban (exceeding 1 hour). The only reason KingDaan has moderator on HG is because he's a global mod, so he has powers everywhere. As said above, to accommodate for all the new McPvP staff coming in, we're redoing our staff system to give some moderators the power to ban hackers permanently (like McPvP allowed).

He may had been very well versed with the McPvP community, but the servers are apart of Brawl now. He needs to learn how Brawl operates first, just like the rest of our Brawl staff did, and like the old McPvP moderators will.

No current Brawl staff member will be promoted to a full HG/CTF/Build moderator until they're experienced enough in the areas you mentioned. We understand you're concerned, and trust me, your voice is being heard. As your staff are new to our servers, our staff are new to yours. They'll get the hang of it, as I'm sure McPvP moderators will too.

I hope I've addressed most of your issues, that's a lot to type on a tiny phone keyboard. If you still have concerns, let me know.

 

I think it is fine that Dan is moderating HG. I am a veteran player of mcpvp myself and was around when fletcher and be to were kits. That was 3 years ago. I think Dan, along with some mcpvp advice, will get along great with other mcpvp players

 

No one is a moderator on HG. I think being a moderator on HG is for lots of things, #1, I think moderating HG would be for a veteran player of mcpvp as of Dan could be a moderator on HG. #2, Dan would have a purple-ish Name if he is chatting. #3, The recommended player is Dan. He could a great hardcore games moderator.

 

Daan is a global mod like a lot of the other mods. It isn't his priority moderation server, so what's wrong with him moderating it? If he never moderates other servers, he will never learn how to precisely moderate that server.