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Disagree rating.

Discussion in 'Suggestions / Ideas' started by chikenanater011, Jul 4, 2015.

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Should disagree ratings be returned?

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  1. chikenanater011

    chikenanater011 Well-Known Member

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    So the disagree rating has been removed for a while, I never really thought that it was a good idea to remove it.
    I'll just list a few reasons why I think disagree rating should return.
    1. They were never a negative thing, all disagreeing is is having a different opinion to someone else.
    2. The ratings feel very restricted with you not being able to do as little as disagreeing, it's like being forced to agree/like something (you don't have to like/agree but it still feels very restricting)
    3. They are just ratings, they can't hurt anyone and few people would go out of their way just to disagree with every single post someone makes.
     
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  2. F1r3tar

    F1r3tar Highly Established Member

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    If they are going to be added back, there shouldn't be a neutral total. Just have them as a non-value (doesn't add to a total) rating. I think the negativity surrounding them is because a disagree counter gives the user the feeling that each disagree makes him/her more unpopular in the community.

    I viewed the Hypixel forum a week ago. Neutral ratings don't add up there, but there seemed to be an argument in a thread over someone receiving a disagree rating from another member. Because, of this, I don't fully support the suggestion to re-enable them, even if it were a non-value rating. They could be given a second chance. Maybe a trial run without the neutral total? If it doesn't cause an excessive number of flame wars, keep the rating. If it doesn't work out, disable them permanently.

    Yeah, I really don't think they're ever coming back. Cold, hard truth.
     
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  3. Tenshirox

    Tenshirox C a p t u r e F l a g

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    Agreeing needs little to no explanation as you just agree with the argument given. Disagreeing on the other hand means you do not believe their argument is valid.

    When disagreeing, you explain why you don't agree and state what you believe in (At least that's what should happen).

    Adding a disagree rating can make people lazy and would stunt debate. Why state your side and have people agree with you when you can just mark a tally saying you dont agree?
     
  4. chikenanater011

    chikenanater011 Well-Known Member

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    The only people who would get into arguments for receiving disagree ratings would be over sensitive people, any normal person wouldn't get into an argument over disagrees, also people get into arguments/flame wars without any sort of negative ratings.
     
  5. soccerstars

    soccerstars Well-Known Member

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    I personally would love a disagree rating, but this community will probably miss use it again. When they removed the negative ratings, people would just send disagree as a dislike or pointless rating. You may not do this but many people would.

    Honestly, a rating pretty much says nothing. You can just comment and say why you disagree.
     
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  6. booflame

    booflame Well-Known Member

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    And that is what is wrong with this world.
     
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  7. Nxy

    Nxy Just another birb

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    I personally don't really mind having them, but as what @soccerstars said, the community might/ probably will miss use this again.

    Also, what @Striker_Nine said, IF they were to be added back, I don't think they should be added to go with your rating stats. Just a simple way to express your opinion without commenting on a thread and not having people get offended about it.
     
  8. StrikerSly

    StrikerSly Well-Known Member

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    I was thinking this:

    The negative ratings should come back. However, to be able to give the rating, it is mandatory to reply. You may think that people would just spam, but what's stopping them from spamming now?

    This mandatory response will force them to give reasoning for the disagreement. If they cannot reply, they cannot rate it negatively. Simple.

    I'm pretty sure this post is ironic since I'm sure a lot would disagree, but I think it's a good system for compromise.

    I've watched this forum over time and I've seen how mis-used the negative ratings were - and like Nine said in his spoiler: regardless of the community's response, I don't think they will come back.
     
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  9. chikenanater011

    chikenanater011 Well-Known Member

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    The community voted negative ratings out didn't it?
    Why wouldn't the community be able to bring at least one rating back?
     
  10. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    To be honest, I'd love to see it back as long as if it doesn't add up.
     
  11. King_Daan

    King_Daan Well-Known Member

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    1. They were being and will be abused since there are only positive ratings.
    2. You can simply reply on someone's thread/post saying that you disagree and why.
    3. Because they could get abused, it can be really annoying if someone disagrees your post without any reason. With this I mean that people can also disagree posts that can't even be disagreed, if it's not an opinion..
     
  12. chikenanater011

    chikenanater011 Well-Known Member

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    You can also reply on a thread/post saying that you like it/agree with it/find it funny etc etc.
     
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  13. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    1. Spamming PMs could be abused. Avoiding the chat filter in game could be abused. That's why there's mods.
    2. You can do the same for the current ratings, except just saying "I agree" or "I disagree" would spam the thread.
    3. Would it be possible to make it so when you use certain ratings (such as most negative ones), you would have to put a short message after? Its kinda hard to explain. If someone puts a disagree and doesn't have a message, or just says "I disagree because u suk l0ldl0le0l0l" then the rating could be removed.
     
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  14. King_Daan

    King_Daan Well-Known Member

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    It will only cause more trouble that we don't want, there's just no need these kind of ratings.
    https://www.brawl.com/threads/26783/
     
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    This changed my mind.
     
  16. Paul

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    If you disagree with someone, you can reply and explain why rather than spamming a rating on all their posts. That's how I always thought of it.
     
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  17. chikenanater011

    chikenanater011 Well-Known Member

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    A rating doesn't really take up any space though, if ratings didn't count up it wouldn't be like disagreeing with 1 persons every post would stack up disagree ratings, plus most people should be mature enough to not abuse it, why not just limit the amount of disagrees possible in a day or against a single person in a day.
    Also there are a few things that could be abused that are still on the forums, they haven't been removed.
    There isn't any need for agree, funny, friendly, optimistic, winner, informative, useful or creative ratings either, we still have them.
     
  18. Rytheria

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    I wouldn't mind seeing a disagree rating personally however I can imagine that seeing negative ratings like that would increase the amount of negative comments on the thread. I personally know that if I see an agree rating on a post, I feel influenced to agree with it swell and I'm sure that a disagree influence could do the same thing. Therefore, having a dislike rating (would personally) be a big influence on how ideas are looked at etc, and might not be the best thing to include on the forums even though it would be interesting.

    I also feel like that if a disagree/agree rating is posted, there should be a post by the rating player to justify why they agreed or disagreed with the post.
     
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  19. SoMuchWinning

    SoMuchWinning Well-Known Member

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    inb4 rating gets re-added and I get a "disagree" on this post.

    I don't believe it is worth re-adding. It only caused more flame and arguing than any kind of a positive thing, trust me on this - if any kind of negativity were to return, we would once again become a flaming train wreck that we once were back in '13 and '14. Simply speaking, it wouldn't be worth adding. We don't have any other neutral ratings or negative ratings, so, is there much more of a point to it?

    I'd much rather keep it the way it is - if you disagree with something, explain why. What we had before the negative and neutral ratings were removed was a very pathetic and typical situation: someone rates your post with "disagree", "dislike" or "pointless", and when you would ask them why, for a solid reason, they'd throw out some of the most redundant and unneeded explanations, such as "what thread", "I didn't like it", ":V".
     
  20. Lord_Roke

    Lord_Roke Forever the Forums Watchdog
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    I would rather not have the forums spammed with "Lol funny!", "I agree!","Very informative!" and "I like it" posts.

    The disagree rating is a different thing because you usually don't need to explain why you rated something funny or agree, but if you disagree with something you should always explain why.
     
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