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Discussion in 'Ideas' started by BlueSideWind, Jul 9, 2015.

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  1. BlueSideWind

    BlueSideWind Active Member

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    Kit Name- Eruption/Eruptor

    Starting Items
    Snowball (Name Suggestions for kit item)

    Cooldown: 1 minute 10 seconds. (nosoup) (45 seconds with soup)

    If not cooldown then Limited uses.

    Spawns with 3 kit item

    Pros
    Throw an "Kit Item" (snowball) Where ever it lands spawns 1 block of lava.

    Cons
    Hitting an Entity (meaning players also) will not spawn lava. (Meaning throwing a snowball at a player will not spawn lava on them)
     
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  2. Rytheria

    Rytheria Well-Known Member

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    This seems a bit complicated, I don't really understand what's going on with the kit.
    Do you fuel your items with lava buckets? Does it shoot lava? Could you make a brief description of how this works please, because I'm a tad confused personally.
     
  3. BlueSideWind

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    I thought I made it simple lol

    "Guess I didn't"

    So for an easier understanding lets say the kit item is a Snowball (renamed Lava thrower).

    Right click your snowball and you will throw the snowball in the direction your cursor is facing. (like you know a snowball)

    Where ever it lands. It will spawn 1 lava block.

    **If** you throw the snowball directly at an Entity (meaning players also) It will only cause a slight knockback like what a snowball does and spawn no lava.

    Cooldown Based kit: 1 minute 10 seconds

    Limited Uses Based Kit: Spawns with 3 BUT you can craft more by placing a lava bucket into your crafting table giving you 1 Snowball.
     
  4. Rytheria

    Rytheria Well-Known Member

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    In the description you said there is a fire charge and lava bucket that you start with?
    Also I don't believe you can recolour snowballs in Default texture packs, you would need custom texture packs for that.

    Also, I don't see the purpose of having aerial lava placement, it just doesn't seem effective. If you look at kits we already have; there's fireman. Fireman starts with a lava bucket which pretty much does the same thing, but it is already implemented. Plus you're immune to lightning and lava (*and fire*).

    (that's from my understanding, anyway)
     
  5. BlueSideWind

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    *Sigh* The uses is limitless if you ask me. Also I was suggesting what type of items we could use as the actual Kit item. Snowball would seem pretty lame in comparison then lets say. Fish. Fish that spawns lava. Entertaining lol.
     
  6. Rytheria

    Rytheria Well-Known Member

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    The uses is limitless? That makes little sense. If you're saying that fireman has limited uses, it really depends on how strategic you are at using it.

    Also I don't think it really matters what the item is, you shouldn't really be worrying too much about the item and if it's going to be "entertaining" to see.
     
  7. BlueSideWind

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    Well I guess Im just bad at explaining. But anyways. What I'm saying is there are so many ways to use this kit. I won't point them out because then everyone know how to use it. For Example. Fisherman was never made for luring others into a trap. Well not immediately and now everyone wouldnt mind buying it
     
  8. Rytheria

    Rytheria Well-Known Member

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    This won't be made into a kit unless you "sell it" if you get where I'm coming from, give me some reasons and examples of how this could be effective and more useful than fireman and we may be able to discuss this further.

    At the moment though, this sounds way too similar to fireman and pretty useless in my opinion.
     
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  9. BlueSideWind

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    Throwable lava is way more useful than fireman in my opinion :smile: Theres me word of advice. You can try to strategize with this kit kind of like what smart thinkers did for "Endermage" Switcher Fisherman and so forthe.
     
  10. Rytheria

    Rytheria Well-Known Member

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    Like I said, sell me some reasons.
    I'm not going to try thinking of strategies about a kit idea that isn't created yet, so if you have any ideas please share them so we get to know your idea behind this kit better.
     
  11. Viva

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    I don't really see too many practical uses of this kit as opposed to fireman. With fireman you can precisely place your lava where you want as long as it's close to you, with no true cool-down. With this you have to wait for your cooldown to end and then try and throw lava onto someone.
     
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  12. Tata2012

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    Along with it being related to Fireman, the snowballs would be very spammy. If you make one of the "Lava throwers" by placing a lava bucket and a snowball in a crafting table, wouldn't it just be more effective to use the lava bucket since you already have it?
     
  13. MattM1PVP

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    I see the point of throwable lava, but 1 block is way too little. Maybe 3x3, because it's almost impossible to set someone in lava if it only spawns 1 block.

    The snowball should spawn lava when it hits someone too, coz if not this kit, as everyone says, is something like fireman. I suggest cooldown of 60 seconds and disable it completely in no soup, coz different cooldown times are difficult and this is way too OP in no soup.

    (If you don't understand me I'm sorry)
     
  14. Rytheria

    Rytheria Well-Known Member

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    Imagine being able to throw 3x3 blobs of lava, you'd annhilate opponents if used correctly. I say we just stick with fireman for the similarity reasons stated above.
     
  15. ItsNotoriousBIG

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    This is just a similar version of spiderman , its way to UP to be added at the moment , a block of lava does not really help much considering i can go Pyro and do 9000% more damage with it !
     
  16. MattM1PVP

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    I see the point of throwable lava, but 1 block is way too little. Maybe 3x3, because it's almost impossible to set someone in lava if it only spawns 1 block.

    The snowball should spawn lava when it hits someone too, coz if not this kit, as everyone says, is something like fireman. I suggest cooldown of 30 seconds and disable
    3x3 blocks of lava without it spreading?
     
  17. ItsNotoriousBIG

    ItsNotoriousBIG Active Member

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    Nah . the kit does not have potential , way to similar to fireman/pyro which both are superior !
     
  18. Oerlikon

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    I liked how all of these "mcpvp veterans" are bashing this idea when this was the most liked idea when they poll'd to see which kit should be created (we got stuck with Adventurer anyways).

    Regardless, if a kit needs a 1 minute and 10 second cooldown to be "balanced" then I can almost guarantee it will never be popular because nobody likes cooldowns that long.

    The idea of throwing lava seems interesting, but it would have to be quite different from this idea in order to make it usable compared to fireman etc. Even then, it will still only be a Fireman with additional range.

    And Lava bucket + Snowball for a crafting recipe is worse than Grenadier's crafting recipe. And we both know that crafting recipe is one of the many reasons Grenadier sucks
     
  19. BlueSideWind

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    derp I got bashed lol but anyways.

    3x3 lava= op
    hitting a player with snowball = lava on them seems op in itself but if it makes the kit better than fine by me lol. Works even better for me.

    The only bright side I say is the "Range" and range can be extremely strong. If used correctly.

    Oh and I get plenty of gunpowders for grenades. Yeah its super inefficient in the new mcbrawl hg but hey it was possible. But mainly too hard on players who used the kit.
     
  20. Tata2012

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    There already very effective fire/lava kits and I don't think we need anymore..for now atleast.
     
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