Disagree rating.

Generally most people end an argument after they know it's a lost cause.
You have to grasp the fact the bringing back negative ratings causes a lot of negativity and that is something we do not want here at Brawl. According to @randomcitizen1 they've already had negative ratings and it caused chaos - so why continue to argue when that will most likely be the outcome if we bring them back?

 

The rating system is through the post ratings addon. There is no way to toggle certain ratings in that addon.

 

If the disagree rating was added to be a negative or neutral rating then people would just misuse it as a dislike. Or you could just add this but it wouldn't be counted as a negative rating.

 

People will just use it as a substitute for dislike. Even if someone uses it because they legitimately disagree with the post, there are so many people on Brawl (and the internet in general) that will take offense, because people just take offense to everything these days. As stupid as I think it is, we should probably just leave it alone. To avoid people going mental about it.

 

This is how grudges start....

 

We used to have them all the time on the forums......it was pretty bad.

 

When you say a disagree rating, what do you mean? On a topic and disliking it or something? I'm confused as to what you mean.

 

Theres really no need for the disagree rating. Just explain why you disagree.

 

Likes, agrees and disagrees are inherently different. Generally, liking can be for a reasons that aren't relevant to the discussion being had. If the reasons behind likes were to be explained, it wouldn't be relevant to the discussion. Someone can like a post for nearly any reason imaginable. Here is the official description of the like rating.

"Like - To be used if you like the content discussed."

Now, imagine all the reasons why people can like something. I can like a post because: it was well formatted and pleasing to the eye, I appreciated the use of descriptive language, I liked the use of animal-based metaphors involving camels and pet shops, etc. Since the definition for the like rating is so broad, if people posted explanations of why they liked something, it would lead to threads being filled with off-topic spam.

On the other hand, the reasons behind agree and disagree ratings are far more restricted in nature. The official definition is as follows.

Agree - To be used if you have the same opinion about something.

Agree ratings are pretty straight forward. If someone posts something, and you feel the same way, you rate it agree. It's not worth posting what the person said over again. It's already been said. That is, unless you agree with part of the post or have things to add on to what the person said, in which case an elaboration may be necessary. (By the way, this is exactly what I am doing with Jayden's post. I rated his post agree, but I also had more to say.)

Assuming the disagree ratings definition is opposite that of the agree ratings, it would look something like this.

Disagree - To be used if you have a different opinion about something.

Jayden really hit the nail on the head when he said this:

There are a million ways you could disagree with something someone said. It is oftentimes difficult to determine what exactly you disagree with in most posts and in what manner you disagree with it. A post would almost always better contribute to the discussion than a simple rating. For example, I could have rated your post disagree if we had disagree ratings.

Would you have been able to determine in what way I disagreed with you by me rating your post disagree? How could you? How could I cram this chunk of text into a disagree rating? On the other hand, this post is contributing to the discussion while disagreeing with your post in a reasonable and civil manner. It is as Jayden said. There really isn't a need for disagree ratings.

 

It feels restricting not to have a dislike/disagree button? What?
How on earth is that a reason to go back to down/disagree votes rather than actually having to explain your disagreement?

You aren't being forced to press the agree/like/funny button! No magical force is compelling you to do that!
The lack of a stupid rating on a forum is not restricting your right to disagree whatsoever.

Disagree ratings are like down-voting and those are inherently negative or will usually be perceived that way regardless of the intention.

You'd be surprised how badly negative ratings can be taken (which is kind of sad). Posts can be more easily moderated and actually explain disagreement because someone could just choose to "disagree/down-vote" someone's post and never explain why ( I am not talking about trolls in this instance).
On the other hand ratings taken into a potentially bad connotation is not a problem with positive ratings.

Also I find it a little funny that I'm disagreeing with your proposal to have a disagree button on posts. What an interesting irony

 

That thread isn't the best example. That post was the original post. Of course people are going to disagree and respond to it. Not to mention it was a "nerf Iso and Moddel" thread. Anyways, what I said previously pertains more to individual posts. People can just rate a post disagree and leave without any explanation or elaboration to add to the topic being discussed.

That would be the best way for things to be done, but it's not always done like that as you yourself recognize.

It would force people to read beneath the lines to see what was being said by the rating. A post would actually contribute to the discussion on the other hand.

Except for overall peace.

Or, as you said...

Which doesn't necessarily mean that they wouldn't leave a legitimate comment otherwise. The disagree rating breeds laziness.

I explained in my last post how likes and dislikes are different.

 

Spoiler: To Everyone

Disagree ratings will never come back no matter how much we argue for/against them. Stop discussing them as you're simply wasting your time; you could be doing something more productive. Nobody's opinion will change, face the facts.