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Idea Xray problems | Esp

Discussion in 'Raid' started by x38, Jul 13, 2015.

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  1. x38

    x38 Active Member

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    Hello brawlers and staff.
    A LONG time ago I quit because I found ALL my bases xrayed in the nether, or chest ESP'd. I got really mad so created a thread which was flame and it got removed by a second. I just think that mcbrawl should maybe have an admin or 2 online, or any staff member that is allowed to tp and you know, all that good stuff. Anyway, I think mcbrawl should have 2 admins on at times because, hackers and xrayers are a problem on the server so I think that Mcbrawl pvp should simply add a plugin that can tell, who placed what blocks and who mined what blocks, and a plugin that can rollback bases, every soup pvp server has one but brawl... So if there's a straight line down to my base, an admin can come on and see who mined that hole. Then that admin can rollback my base so all my items will be back. So now all the players are happy.

    If having 2 admins on at times is to much of a struggle, then there could be a ticket we can fill out online Brawl just like the hacker reports. This will be called an xray-ticket. This will simply have these questions down below.

    In Game Name: (name)
    Is your base in nether or over world: (pick your answer)
    Coords to the base that has been xrayed: (post your coords)
    Does any team mate have access to that base (Yes or no): (Yes or no)
    Why do you think you're base has been xrayed, give examples, tunnels, lines digging down etc: (Write why you think)

    And so this will be posted in a private place on the forums so only admins can see it just like the ban appeals. So now an admin will look at the coords and simply /tp to them. The admin will check to see if its xray. If he believes it's xrayed, the admin will use the plugin to check who mined the tunnel. Then roll back everything. It's simple and reason why players leave the server, is because their best base gets xrayed and thinks, "if Brawl can't handle hackers then why should I play if my base will get repetitively get xrayed?) So there it is, I know the plugin name to see who broke what, it's called block logger. But I don't know the role back plugin. Please do something about this brawl. If an admin needs to talk to me in ts about this let me know by reply or just pming me, like this thread if you agree.
    Have a good day
    Xx_Panda_Lord_xX | Now know as x38
     
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  2. AnonymousGalaxy

    AnonymousGalaxy Raid Manager | Manager of Managing | Legacy

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    This idea has soo many flaws. I honestly think this is a bad idea. People could easily abuse this. Just accept you get raided and keep playing like the rest of the players :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  3. TheSinisterOne

    TheSinisterOne Goodbye

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    You know what they said, X-rah or get xrayed...

    nah jk I don't like this idea too much, admins are more important than this.
     
  4. BuddyCroooock

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    This doesn't look like a good idea. You could easily report everyone with just that 'report form'.
     
  5. x38

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    How is this a bad idea? And abuse this, how could people abuse this? Admins only have access to it not players.

    You don't like the idea that when your base gets xrayed you can get everything back with a call of an admin?

    If I /report someone for xray, the admins still can't figure out who broke what and get my stuff back. Look, (not advertising) if many soup servers can have this, brawl can. That's what makes those servers popular and legit is because they can role back bases after xray, they can ban hackers, admins don't join a private ts channel and sit there out of game all day and talk like brawl...
     
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  6. AnonymousGalaxy

    AnonymousGalaxy Raid Manager | Manager of Managing | Legacy

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    It's easily abused, people could just get an alt and/or friend to dig a hole straight down after getting raided and then mess around in their base to make it seem like it was a hacker. Then you'd get your stuff back. Just play the game like the rest of us and deal with getting raided. :grinning:
     
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  7. TheSinisterOne

    TheSinisterOne Goodbye

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    Admins shouldn't have to deal with silly stuff like this? X-Ray doesn't happen 24/7...
     
  8. x38

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    If they get someone to do that for them, then there alt will be banned and if the friend took the loot out, and stored it somewhere else, the plugin takes it back from the person so it can't be abused, learn to look this **** up before you complain.
     
  9. Ritzy

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    X-ray is not bannable or can be proven. This idea could never work. Literally the only way to be banned for X-ray is recording yourself with it on accidentaly. -1
     
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  10. AnonymousGalaxy

    AnonymousGalaxy Raid Manager | Manager of Managing | Legacy

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    Also, the thing is they wouldn't know if it was your friend or alt that pretended to be a hacker, unless you told them. Let me try to explain again, someone could track you and raid you, then you would get your friend or alt and dig straight down into your base and open up chests mess around destroy/place blocks, and they could also put some loot in your chest and just basically make it look like they were an xrayer and they raided you instead of a legit person that tracked and raided you. People could also lie on their report. Not trying to hate, but I'm just pointing out some major flaws in this. :smile:
     
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  11. Nxy

    Nxy Just another birb

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    Let's not flame guys. This thread is for ideas, no need calling each other "idiots" for an idea.

    Now, personally I'm undecided about this plugin(s).

    Good: The good thing about this (if it were to be implemented) would be that (if) there was an actual hacker, you can find out (possibly..? Depends on the situation of whats it's in to be frank) who the"hacker" was and you can ban another hacker off the server. @Ritzy did say you can't ban hackers for x-ray and yes, this is true, but if there were to be sufficient proof of this person x-raying we could (again, possibly) ban for this. Also, with the "roll back plugin" you could get your stuff back, which is always good. Also, if a player would abuse this "report ticket" a staff member could easily deny their permissions to fill out one of those tickets, and have the person PM a staff member if their base actually got raided. It'll be easy for them to explain why they can't fill out a report in their PM and if it's still a troll "ticket" / pm then the staff member who's handling the situation can deal with the player then.

    Here's the mean part of me, the bad: Honestly, I see this as somewhat pointless. Many other people have said this, but I'll say it too. It's an aspect of survival to get raided. Period the end. If it was hackers, why not make a chest vault in the sky, at building limit, so people can't x-ray it? You can't "chest esp" up 250 so blocks. The limit is somewhat near 40-45 (ish) blocks to "chest esp" a chest. If you don't have a tower going up to it, then it can't be raided unless you were tracked because funny story, chests don't cause a shadow. Sure, it's nothing fancy, chests are quite boring, I'll agree on that, but it prevents you from getting raided dose it not? Also, for underground bases: I've learned to put what's not that important in it so if it dose get raided, then I wont quit over it. If it's underground it has 2 destinies. Either option a) get X-rayed, or option b) get tracked. Also, what came to me while reading this is: Even though @XProjectWisdom said this but as a situation you log in, noticed your base was "x-rayed". You then fill out one of the "report" tickets, and wait for a staff members to read your ticket. Now, let's say your little hacker buddy happens to be a friend of yours that's on a alt. Let's also say you gave them access to the base. they now make it look like it was x-rayed and stores your loot at a different base, (a base that the main account has access to) and your buddy gets banned. They log on with their main account, warp to the base that they have the loot at, and they now have your loot. Now, let's say you're some what "butt hurt" over getting "x-rayed" so you get this "roll back"plugin. Now you have every item you once had back, but now with your buddies loot as well, everything's x2. Uhhhhhhh, abusing this system much? Now as for what @Xx_Panda_Lord_xX said, how would it "take back the items"? When roll backing a place where your base would be, wouldn't it be basically like a copy - paste thing? To where if your base was destroyed, they'll copy the base as it was once before and paste it? (I'm just wondering about this, mostly because I'm not really familiar to plugins like this.) Now I could go on and on, but I think you got my point.

    Like I said, undecided.
     
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  12. SillyPickles

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    Madre de dios that's alot to read
     
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  13. x38

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    Yes, in survival you get raided. But it's fine when you get tracked and raided, but having a dub of p4 raided by a xrayer, not so fun. All your hard work. I'm just saying Brawl is missing out on this, go on a soup pvp team server, they'll have blog log and role back. I've had to have my base rolled back millions of times on Para and it's awesome that the staff can do that. That's what makes the severs successful because they have good staff and actually BAN hackers. Sure it will be fine if there was like 1 xrayer on Brawl but lets be real. Half the people that join that server either be complete idiots and use hacks out of spawn, or they xray. And when I call hacks I don't just call them hacks because they kill me, I play on many servers with op pingers so I know the difference between a head twitch and a 16 block ranger. Hackers come on servers that they feel safe to hack because admins are never on to ban. So that explains why there's more then 20 xrayers on Brawl. Mostly everyone has used a hacked client in their life, or a unfair esp mod type of thing, and don't use it, but most of those people take advantage and wanna have fun with it, "Oh this server looks hard to get stuff on, lets go find a base to esp to get me started" there, a hackers life. My whole point is Mcbrawl needs to start banning hackers. I feel like there's 3 people (including me) who actually record lots of hackers and report them. "Oh well, I recorded a hacker once so there's more then 3" no, I mean LOTS of hackers. My whole channel had over 40 videos of hackers on Brawl 1 year ago, I then removed them cause no one wants to see hackers and will rather see somethin else. @_Buzzy_ gets this and agrees with me cause he knows what he's doing unlike some children on here who don't even know what xray is. #BrawlNeedsToBanHackers

    And it doesn't take all the loot at his base dumbo, it finds what you had in your base from roll back, then it takes away all the loot I think, I could be wrong but lets just say it somehow magically gets back your loot. If you wanna test it out go on a soup teams server, get on a alt and xray your own base then get an admin to check, you'll see how it works.

    Yes, it's just like a copy and paste thing but the plugin has every part of the world copied so it can get back that one little bases stuff, and every time something is added to the chest it updates and saves. It's kinda like CTRL+ C something, the CTRL+V then typing more stuff, then CTRL+Z stuff to remove your stuff. Like that. It's confusing.

    So what your telling me is that admins don't ban xrayers even if they WATCH him xray they don't ban.
     
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  14. Colonel_Graff

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    X-ray is the least of my concern. There are hacks out there far more powerful. I sell my stuff into /shop for a reason...
     
  15. x38

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    Brawl reminds me of a server which is dead, minetime (rip), and the owner let people hack and it was a very popular server, Brawl do you own that server cause you sure as hell let kids hack on your server all day.

    This isn't just about xray. Anyway a hacking scum bag can get into your base. Players ESP, Chest ESP dropper ESP furnace ESP anything.
     
  16. Ritzy

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    I don't know who you think you are really calling admins out like that. They do everything they can for this server and you saying "BrawlNeedsToBanHackers" in just June this month the total bans/temp bans = 18,309 (3,254 increase) found here: https://www.brawl.com/threads/42448/. :smile:
     
  17. Evolution350

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    I will say that a few months ago my vaults got xrayed, which really ticked me off. But I don't see a way to prove xray. Because how will we know who did the xray if it happened. Also I agree with Nxxy's statement, if only I did that before getting xrayed ;P
     
  18. fellar_tino

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    This should probably be a thing for moderators, the admins have to much responsibility.
     
  19. Buzzy357

    Buzzy357 Hurry and drain your tears so we can fight.

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    I would say more to this, But im obviously going to get carried away and Get in trouble.
     
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    Agreed xD
     
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