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Idea KitPvP Revamp

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  1. MrWaffleman

    MrWaffleman The negligence of time's end is man's downfall

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    KitPvP Revamp


    Attention: Before you read any of this I would want to make a few things clear. I know all the coders and Admins are busy at the moment with other things in hand such as Bugs and New Servers, I know this won’t be considered in probably a few months. But I want to state a lot of things KitPvP would be good with. This is a WHOLE server redo, I will try not to remove most aspects of the game but rather add more cool features. I tried to make this as reasonable as possible and not fictional. Not to show off but I’ve been playing KitPvP for over a year and I’ve achieved getting more than 25,000 kills in total from all the resets, I know what I’m talking about and I think that KitPvP right now is kind of boring. I know there’s going to be a Guns Version, but I think we first need to start spicing up the current KitPvP. I’ll start off with the things you see right when you spawn in…


    Spawn


    When you first join the game you should start out with the regular items you always come with. But this time there’s a proper Spawn. In our current KitPvP you spawn in 4 spots around the Arena, not much of a starting place where people can hang out and such. I think adding a cool spawn, not too big, yet not too small in the arena. This way players who will spawn will have a place to hang out with friends. I think adding a Spawn will have that warm feeling and would be nice and organized.


    Noob-Friendly


    I’m going to stress on this one. About ¾ of the server doesn’t even know how to properly play the game. For example I always hear the same question being asked every time like “Why can’t I pick a kit!!?11 This is glitched!!!”, it’s because you need credits for them. It’s also really frustrating when this happens when I’m fighting… when you spawn in there has to be some complete manual to play. Or at least make a Wiki-Page on KitPvP so people who join know how to actually play.


    Kits


    I’m going to really explain thoroughly on this one. I don’t plan on removing any of the kits right now, but I’m going to first explain what I’m going to evaluate on. Kits special abilities/skills, more donor kits for specific ranks, and more kits in general. Right now the kits are very generic and vanilla, before you get idea I would want to point something out right here and right now. I would like NO kits to have ANY items, that’s right ONLY abilities like with your bow and sword. I would have two reasons for this… reason 1 is that having abilities would cause an uproar if some kits overpower each other and start the whole fight again (just like what happens all the time in CTF). Reason 2 is that I’ve played other KitPvP servers with items and it just plainly gets in the way of soup and if it regenerates it can be really glitchy. With abilities I will just touch the surface of them, we already have a community that suggests lots of things… so I’d trust them with abilities. I was thinking that each kit would have a special ability just to spice some things up, such as you deal double damage if you hit someone in the back as Hidden. Also if you’re Ranged every 5 blocks or so your bow adds half a heart to its damage. I’m going to into Skills later considering it’s going to take a while to explain and also I’ll put it in the Optional section. As I stated before, there needs to be donor kits for specific ranks. Right now we have Tank and Indian. I think they’re really boring as is, and there needs to be more kits. And when there are more kits there should be kits for specific ranks. For example VIP and MVP have access to Tank. And Elites have access to Indian. This way there are unique kits that each rank would appreciate. And it would give each rank something they would like. I don’t really have to explain that much in the last idea, again the community suggests lots of things and I think that adding kits could be figured out. Because Brawl has had the same kits for a LONG time and I think they’re getting very boring.


    The Arena


    Brawl has had the same KitPvP Arena ever since it started. I really don’t want to say that it’s a bad arena, because it really isn’t. The map is PERFECT, I don’t even have to evaluate on it. Except that the part that many people complain about the lava pit… but other than that all of the aspects of the map are good like the camping spots aren’t that OP because there are many entrances to the towers. Also there aren’t many hiding spots that people can just stay in and never be seen in. But I would like to have a new arena… with DESIGN. Let’s face it, the arena is pretty boring. The arena is well designed but not enough. Not many bright colors and something that looks really cool. The arena is literally pretty much symmetrical, there should be a new arena that isn’t symmetrical and looks very well designed and nice. But I will hate it, and I’m sure many others will too if the map is unbalanced. Such as adding nature for many campers to hide in, and making building for people to camp in as well. I love the balancing of the current map and I think it’s perfect but just needs design to it.


    ‘/party’ and ‘/team’


    If any of you have played Kohi (sorry if that is considered advertising) you would know where I’m going with in party. What the party command does is that it parties you with players so you can 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5 other players (party limit is 5). With this it’s organized and will attracts many teams from other servers to compete with each other, this may also spark up competitions. I don’t really have to explain the mechanics of this considering I’m pretty sure all of you know how it works. With team I can see this going to be iffy. I will state some things people will say and I will counter it. Teams will work just like party except it will be permanent and you have protection from each other from each other. The team limit is 5 just like parties. The team commands will be exactly the same like Survival PvP, like there will be commands like ‘/team info’ ‘/team setrank’ and so on. The team Owner and Manager are the ones who can kick people from the team and start new games against other teams/parties. With the team, it records how many times you’ve lost and won as a team. I guess there could also be a Team Elo. Which would spark up competition again. Now I know some of you will be like “Team of 5 in the arena?! This is way too Overpowered!” Now I will counter this with 3 reasons. Reason 1 is that there is a low chance that every team member will be on at the same time. Reason 2 is that if you don’t like the big team fight it with a big team “Fight fire with fire”. Reason 3 is that the Team Owner/Manager can always toggle friendly fire like Survival PvP. I know adding this would require lots of work but I think it would be really cool to see this implemented.


    New 1v1s (and so on) and Challenges



    These concepts are very simple, and I won’t change them very much. The 1v1s (and so on) and Challenges right now are pretty good concept-wise, they DO have bugs and glitches which you already know. But they’re pretty simple and straightforward. But I think that the arena is way too small and boring. I think it should work somewhat like Kohi (sorry if this is basically advertising again). There should be cool arenas about 100x100 blocks that are random. Simple maps yet cool designs, they won’t take that much work considering they’re small arenas and the community can contribute. But with this there will be a new aspect of PvPing over land and buildings. It would be cool to see this implemented. Also this has been suggested before but I think that there should be recorded wins and loses. Not just Elo.


    Achievements and Leaderboards


    I think it would be cool to see Achievements. Some of them could be crazy. I don’t really need to list any considering again that the community can make awesome suggestions. but there should be a GUI like ‘/achievements’ showing all the possible achievements you can get and you have earned. With these achievements when you complete them you earn credits. Also I think there should be a leaderboards. I don’t really like it if there was a leaderboards for kills considering one can just no life KitPvP everyday (*wink wink me wink wink*). Rather, it should be based off of skill. How many 1v1s you won and so on. And maybe like achievement points?


    Shop


    Considering that if you bought all the kits, you basically have nothing to spend on. I think there should be a shop to buy various things. I don’t really know what you would buy… but I’m sure people can make up things to do with your credits sitting around doing nothing. Maybe Soup Refills or limited potion effects? No clue for now.


    Killstreaks Rework


    I think the Killstreaks should have a little rework. Maybe instead of bunching all of the Killstreaks together maybe spread them apart? Like for getting a Kill Streak you need 3 kills, and for a Rampage you need 5 kills. And so on. Also it would be interesting to add more Kill Streak names considering so many people get high killstreaks.


    Kill-Chains Rewards


    As seen, you can get a Double-Kill, Triple-Kill, and so on. I think there should be rewards for all of these. I know that there are already extra soup rewards for these. But there should be unique rewards if you get Kill-Chains. Because these are super tricky to pull off. I’m not sure for now, but maybe potion effects and No Knockback? Or possibly invincibility for 10 seconds? The community can put their input on this one.


    Bounties


    As we all may know Bounties don’t even do anything at the moment. It just shows that if you kill someone with a Killstreak you get a bounty. I think that bounties should be worked on. For now I’ll call them Bounty Points because I don’t really have anything else to call them. Whenever you kill someone with a killstreak you keep the usual Bounty. But in this case if someone kills the person with a bounty they get Bounty Points. In the future these can be used for something (I’m not sure now), but they will be useful. Instead of the usual message Bounty: (2). There should be something that pops out to make sure that players keep an eye out for that person. Players can log out with bounties on their heads. There should also be commands like ‘/topbounty’, which shows the top ten players with the most bounty. ‘/bounty set <name>’ to set a bounty on someone’s head (AHA, that’s what bounty points are for…). ‘/bounty <name>’ shows the bounty of that specific player.


    Optional


    These are optional and I think they would be cool if they were added, but I think that they’re not a priority.


    Skills


    These would take a long time to implement, that’s why I put them here. With the SAO Server coming I can already see staff members making abilities (STARBURST STREAAAAM, sorry my fanboi instinct wanted me to put that there…). But it would be cool to see these in KitPvP. Such as Right-Clicking a sword to activate an ability. These should be unique and cool, but balanced. These could be bought from the Armory and also possibly be upgraded as well. Costs a ton of credits so that there could be a use of them and they would be hard to get (Ex: The rare ones could cost 10,000 credits.) Another approach to getting Skills could be the Lucky Concept, similar to a CS:GO Case Opening. Where there is a more likely chance to get a low-class skill than a high-class skill.


    Armory


    Instead of using the same old basic and boring GUI, the staff could try implementing armor stands to select kits. This would be a cool feature where next to spawn there is an armory with stands showing information about kits and shows their equipment on an armor stand. You can select the kit by right-clicking or left-clicking the armor stand.


    Well that’s all for now! I may add more ideas when I get them so stay tuned.
     
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  2. Romkelolol

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    Not like I have any time to spend on important things... Let's read this.

    This is a great idea :wink: It will help the server by making it more appealing. It will also make it look more professional.
    +1



    Also a good idea, And not only for KitPvP. I'd say that in the new spawn, there should be a large section that will explain everything in major detail.
    +1

    This also sounds very good. It helps the server once again. However: It does mean that we need to revamp some kits, which can take some time.
    +1

    Maybe let every server have a different arena. Wasn't there this arena in McPvP with a clocktower and a lot of cool things? Maybe add some arenas made by Brawl players.
    +1

    There is one problem with this. Some other major servers, like the aformentioned Kohi (It isn't directly advertising, so I think that you're safe), May think that we are stealing ideas from them.

    I do think that this could also be a viable idea to add, especially with the ability to toggle friendly fire (Even tho, I am sure that not many owners will add it)
    +1 Altho, It does need a LITTLE bit of tweaking.

    As aformentioned, There should be different arenas on different servers.
    +1

    I would love to see this. Leaderboards are probably fairly easy to do.

    But achievements? It is a good idea, but it will take A LOT of time to implement it. also: What type of achievements will there be? Achievements made by the community? made by the moderators? also: I think that the achievements shouldn't be shown in a message, rather in a book that the player has whilst in the new spawn.

    As for the idea, I give it a +1 as well.

    I'd say that you could buy temporary power ups. Or maybe some effects that help your team.
    +1

    There should be more types of killstreak. There should also be achievements and prizes that can be gotten from high killstreaks.

    You took the words right out of my mouth +1

    Are we going GTA V here? Bounties should also give achievements and prizes. It would also give more reasons to have bounties.
    +1


    This will take A LONG time to implement.
    And I am not sure if it would be worth investing time in this. It still is a good idea, Which I would love to see happen.
    +1

    This could be a second option to select a kit. Ofcourse, we will still keep the old GUI.
    +1



    These ideas are all really good. However, I looked at most of these in a theoretical standpoint. These ideas may cause glitches or can affect major gameplay mechanics. So I am not sure if this could work in practice.

    But the ideas are well thought out, will help the server a lot, adds a lot more spice to the game and will make the server a lot more outstanding. That is why, for every idea, I gave it a +1. These ideas are all too good to pass up.


    I hope that my feedback helped you a bit :wink:
     
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  3. MrWaffleman

    MrWaffleman The negligence of time's end is man's downfall

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    @Striker_Romke (Because I'm too lazy to quote).

    Thanks for the feedback! For achievements maybe like kill a player 3 times in a row, get revenge on a player. Like unique achievements not the average things you see in every game.
     
  4. pause18

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    Waffleman really when picking kits it does glitch and doesnt allow you to pick already purchase kits
     
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  5. SoMuchWinning

    SoMuchWinning Well-Known Member

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    I approve this thread. The ideas you listed are amazing and I can not disagree with any of these.
    It just depends on what direction brawl wants to take kitPvP - like a MOBA with abilities or the classic/generic KitPvP, but revamped.
     
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  6. MrWaffleman

    MrWaffleman The negligence of time's end is man's downfall

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    Never was a problem for me... weird...

    Thanks for the Feedback guys! I forgot some of the details, I thought up of all of these when I was bored in a car...
     
  7. ItsNotoriousBIG

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    Although i agree with some of the points you make i think that what you mention is over the top in some ways , if i had to pick 3 things to change at the moment is 1) FIX THE KITS ( kits promise effect ect. which they dont have ) as an example i will bring up hidden which claims to have speed yet when picked is not given . 2) Fix the soup glitch ( when i and many others drink a soup i cant hit for the next second or so , this is a huge problem for me although i still win the vast majority of 1v1's 3) Get an anti cheat plugin ( to my knowledge there is not one in place ) , like i stated im not sure of the existence of a current one but if there is it DOES NOT WORK . Im not asking for anything complicated just something to prevent speeders .
     
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  8. MrWaffleman

    MrWaffleman The negligence of time's end is man's downfall

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    The Anti-Cheat plugin is going to be moved over, so I'm guessing while we get a new Anti-Cheat plugin, KitPvP is going to get it as well. I agree with this and I hope these glitches / bugs get fixed ASAP. (Although KitPvP is a grinding place for people who want to report hackers...)
     
  9. Zepherrr

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    Really cool and creative ideas. :grinning: I love the spawn idea and /team or /party. Good job on this thread :smile:
     
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