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Separating kits

Discussion in 'Ideas' started by zachyak11, Jul 17, 2015.

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Should some kits be separated between soup and non-soup servers?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. zachyak11

    zachyak11 Member

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    As many may know some kits in HG are just downright OP in nonsoup servers. Some of these include:
    1. teams using viper,cannibal, and reaper if you get hit by everyone of those then the team just runs and continues that a team of 3 with stone swords could beat off a person in full iron armor.
    2. Surprisingly, IMO boxer is actually really really good in a non-soup server, because the reduced damage, collectively between 2 people in full iron armor in no soup, the boxer almost never loses because of the reduction.
    3. Achilles, Achilles in non-soup servers cannot be stopped due to it just being to hard to survive enough hits with no soup before realizing "oh crap i haven't been doing any damage to this guy i'm pretty much dead."
    4. Monk: Fighting against a monk can just be a pain, because you think "oh i got this guy i won the iron sword from the start all he has is a stone sword" 2 seconds before invincibility runs out "poof" there goes the iron sword and out comes a sapling and you lose the fight.
    5. Viking: Viking is on this list, because it essentially is boxer but instead of taking half a heart less you deal half a heart more. In Non-soup servers, you just cannot compete with the amount of damage output a viking has.

    I just think that kits like these that completely win you the game if you are in the same situation as the person you are fighting is just unfair, and you cannot use the soup switching that generally give you that little extra boost you need to win fights.
     
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    #1 zachyak11, Jul 17, 2015
  2. TheMafias

    TheMafias Something wise

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    This is a bad idea, this will stop a little money flow within the server and stops the fun for multiple people to make one person happy. Theres a reason those kits arent free
     
    #2 TheMafias, Jul 17, 2015
  3. dEdGamerz

    dEdGamerz Member

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    I don't think the kits need to be separated, that would cause more issues than it would solve. I think the kits you listed are just more well-suited to a non soup environment than a lot of the other kits (mind you, I really enjoy using flash in no soup games as they can't heal up the damage you dealt from surprising them :stuck_out_tongue:)

    I see where you're coming from, but I think that making it so these kits can only be used in no soup would create more issues than it would solve.
     
    #3 dEdGamerz, Jul 17, 2015
  4. Rytheria

    Rytheria Well-Known Member

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    Certain kits are focused on one server from what I'm aware of. I think Viking is disabled in no-soup (from memory).
     
    #4 Rytheria, Jul 17, 2015
  5. Viva

    Viva Well-Known Member

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    Some kits are limited to only one type of server such as Viking, Cookiemonster, and Soulstealer are disabled (or should be) on NoSoup as they would be too powerful. Kits are really only disabled in one version or another if it has to deal with mass health regen or mass damage dealt. Limiting any more kits wouldn't be very fair to the purchaser nor be very fun.
     
    #5 Viva, Jul 17, 2015
  6. MattM1PVP

    MattM1PVP Ex-HG Staff Member

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    Viking is already disabled. However I disagree with everything else.

    If you're fighting a Boxer, you can try to combo him, and don't say it's impossible, I combo people with 250ms.

    If you're can't kill a Viper Cannibal team, get some better strats. I made a tips and tricks video on how to play no soup, it's in the guides section.

    For Monk, just keep a spare sword in your hotbar or run and switch back your sword

    Achilles. Run and craft a wood sword or keep one with you at all times. How hard is this?
     
    #6 MattM1PVP, Jul 17, 2015
  7. HappyMan

    HappyMan Active Member

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    I agree with all of these - Boxer is actually more OP than Viking because it has a better damage ratio
     
    #7 HappyMan, Aug 5, 2015
  8. Gohabsgo

    Gohabsgo Well-Known Member

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    Once Boxer is fixed it might be a problem.
     
    #8 Gohabsgo, Aug 6, 2015
  9. Turmac

    Turmac Hardcore Games Enthusiast

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    I think it'd be easy to beat half these kits. You just need the right strategy like what @MattM1PVP
     
    #9 Turmac, Aug 6, 2015
  10. _ExtrasPvP_

    _ExtrasPvP_ Active Member

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    kits should remain the same because we need to find 50 or more ideas just to remae nosoup... plus thers strategies in nosoup
     
    #10 _ExtrasPvP_, Aug 7, 2015
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