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The Reality About Critical Hits

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  1. Totom3

    Totom3 Tactical reboot, incoming!

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    The Reality About Critical Hits
    TL;DR: critical hits are fixed.
    Well, they are now.
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    Hello,

    I'd like today to clarify a few things about rumors that probably many of you have heard of already. According to many, critical hits are broken. This is however not true, and in this post I will provide facts as much as I can to support this, all of which tested and confirmed.

    In Vanilla Minecraft & on Brawl's HG:
    • Iron Swords cause 7 damage (3.5 hearts).
    • Diamond Swords cause 8 damage (4 hearts).
    In Vanilla Minecraft:
    • Critical hits cause +50% damage (multiply by 150%).
    • Critical hits with iron swords cause 10.5 damage (5 hearts).
    • Critical hits with diamond swords cause 12 damage (6 hearts).
    In Brawl's HG:
    • Critical hits cause +12.5% damage (multiply by 112.5%).
    • Critical hits with iron swords cause 7.875 damage (3.5 hearts).
    • Critical hits with diamond swords cause 9 damage (4.5 hearts).

    In this mass of numbers there are a few things to understand. First of all, critical hits on HG are a LOT less effective than in Vanilla Minecraft. Secondly, critical hits from iron swords cannot always be differentiated from normal hits because of the way Minecraft displays your health. Your health bar can only display integers of your HP, no decimals. This is probably the source of all the other problems. Sometimes it will SEEM as you took 3.5 hearts, other times it will be 4 or even 4.5. The damage taken, however, is always the same. The client rounds your HP upwards, which can then cause multiple misinterpretations about the damage: a hit dealing 1.9999 damage will appear the same as a hit dealing 1 damage.

    I however have to admit that there WAS a bug that made the plugin not recognize a critical hit. In that case, the hit wasn't nerfed (from 150% to 112.5%) and would cause significantly more damage. This bug was fixed.

    TL;DR: critical hits are fixed.​
     
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    #1 Totom3, Oct 26, 2015
  2. StrikerSly

    StrikerSly Well-Known Member

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    #2 StrikerSly, Oct 26, 2015
  3. Noobified

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    :grinning: but you gotta fix the base damage, iron swords are supposed to do 3 hearts and diamond sword 3.5 hearts (like nerf the damage done by each weapon by half a heart)
     
    #3 Noobified, Oct 26, 2015
  4. Totom3

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    This is not true, check out the wiki.
     
    #4 Totom3, Oct 26, 2015
  5. Lozzylouise

    Lozzylouise SG Player at Heart

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    Thank you for clarifying. No more complaining that the crits are 'broken'.
     
    #5 Lozzylouise, Oct 26, 2015
  6. MattM1PVP

    MattM1PVP Ex-HG Staff Member

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    On MCPVP it was half a heart less than that
     
    #6 MattM1PVP, Oct 26, 2015
  7. NomNuggetNom

    NomNuggetNom Professional Breaker

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    Actually, crits on MCPVP were +25%. If you are talking about an OVERALL damage nerf, regardless of a crit, I don't know if we had one on MCPVP, but that could easily be added on Brawl. The important thing is that everything is working correctly.
     
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    #7 NomNuggetNom, Oct 26, 2015
  8. Turmac

    Turmac Hardcore Games Enthusiast

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    Now there can be no excuses when you die extremely fast in hg :frowning:
     
    #8 Turmac, Oct 26, 2015
  9. Totom3

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    Lag. It's always lag. :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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    #9 Totom3, Oct 26, 2015
  10. MattM1PVP

    MattM1PVP Ex-HG Staff Member

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    I remember very clearly, wood swords on MCPVP did 2 hearts. Stone 2.5, iron 3 and so on. So I guess there was an overall damage nerf. Can add pls?

    In the GAME ITSELF it says diamond sword = +7, iron = +6
     
    #10 MattM1PVP, Oct 27, 2015
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    Thank you for this thread
     
    #11 Miskey, Oct 27, 2015
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  13. Gohabsgo

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    Diamond should be 4 hearts instead of 4.5 hmm

    This was how MCPVP was when I first joined in 2012 and was the most balanced. This would be a great add
     
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    #13 Gohabsgo, Oct 27, 2015
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    ik but...
     
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  15. Viva

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    Good to know this is fixed. I myself don't have too much of a problem with the current damage values knowing that the critical hit damage is fixed.
     
    #15 Viva, Oct 27, 2015
  16. Totom3

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    @MattM1PVP @Gohabsgo Thank you for pointing this out, I wasn't even aware they nerfed the base damage. Currently my objective is to fix all the kits for the Halloween Event, which means this will have to wait. However, once the event is over, I'll be sure to get working on it!
     
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    #16 Totom3, Oct 27, 2015
  17. MattM1PVP

    MattM1PVP Ex-HG Staff Member

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    For the event can you enable enchanting? Put lapis in the table?

    And if possible please do fix the base damage after the kits
     
    #17 MattM1PVP, Oct 27, 2015
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  18. WixardPvP

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    PLZ DELETE MADMAN FROM THE HALOWEEN TOURNAMENT IT IS SO OP PL0XX DONT DESTROY THE TOURNAMENT
     
    #18 WixardPvP, Oct 28, 2015
  19. MattM1PVP

    MattM1PVP Ex-HG Staff Member

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    I have no idea if it's broken again, but today I was fighting with no armour against a stone sword and every hit they dealt on me, I had to soup. Should not be the case (the stone sword crit damage was doing 3.5 hearts)
     
    #19 MattM1PVP, Oct 28, 2015
  20. WixardPvP

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    If ur talking about the time i killed u and extras i was madman¨xD
     
    #20 WixardPvP, Oct 28, 2015
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