Discussion about M4A1, AK-47, Lamentation, AA12, Sub-machine guns & more!

Lets get down to these weapons that I'm discussing about.
I made suggestions based on their stats by using the amount of level they are and how known they are.

M4A1, it's worse than any other Assault Rifle out there. It has 4 less damage than the M16, has less firerate and the same firerate along with the Ak-47, it's a horrible weapon to use.
Lets make a buff!

Fire Rate 400 RPM > 500 RPM
Fire Mode Fully automatic
Reload Time 4 seconds
Magazine Size 30 + 34
Damage 18 > 23
Recoil 0.2
Range 76m
Hip Accuracy 2.5
Aimed Accuracy 0.2

AK-47, this weapon has 2 damage and 0.8 recoil, why... It's near useless and has the same damage as the M16.
Lets make a buff!

Fire Rate 400 RPM
Fire Mode Fully automatic
Reload Time 1.5 seconds
Magazine Size 30 + 34
Damage 22 > 28
Recoil 0.8
Range 76m
Hip Accuracy 3.0
Aimed Accuracy 0.4

Lamentation, this weapon is quite useless to be honest... Its damage is very little for a high level gun and eats bullets like no tomorrow.
Lets buff it!

Fire Rate 600 RPM
Fire Mode Fully automatic
Reload Time 4 seconds
Magazine Size 50 + 14
Damage 18 > 25
Recoil 0.2
Range 76m
Hip Accuracy 3.0
Aimed Accuracy 0.2

AA12, we all knew you were going to be useless... Don't try to say it's good, it's unbelievably useless.
Lets buff it!

Fire Rate 200 RPM > 350 RPM
Fire Mode Fully automatic
Reload Time 1.5 seconds
Magazine Size 20 + 12 > 20 + 42
Damage 7 x 6 (42) > 7 x 8 (56, 7 pellets)
Recoil 0.8
Range 12m
Hip Accuracy 3.5 > 1.0
Aimed Accuracy 3.4 > 0.9

Mac-10, it's quite a horrible SMG. Needs a lot of ammo to get a kill...
Lets buff it!

Fire Rate 600 RPM
Fire Mode Fully automatic
Reload Time 3.5 seconds
Magazine Size 30 + 34
Damage 14 > 17
Recoil 0.4
Range 76m
Hip Accuracy 2.0
Aimed Accuracy 1.0 > 0.3

Mp7, again, kinda useless.

Fire Rate 600 RPM
Fire Mode Fully automatic
Reload Time 3 seconds
Magazine Size 20 + 44
Damage 18 > 20
Recoil 0.225
Range 74m
Hip Accuracy 1.8
Aimed Accuracy 0.8

UMP-45, it's actually quite good, just a tab bit under-powered for what level you get it at.
Lets buff it (slightly)!

Fire Rate 600 RPM > 550 RPM
Fire Mode Fully automatic
Reload Time 4 seconds > 3 seconds
Magazine Size 30 + 34
Damage 22 > 25
Recoil 0.55
Range 70m
Hip Accuracy 2.0
Aimed Accuracy 0.8 > 0.5

P90, it was hella overpowered when it came out, now it's kinda ehh..
Lets buff it!

Unlocked at: Level 50
Price: 2000 credits
Fire Rate 600 RPM> 630 RPM
Fire Mode Fully automatic
Reload Time 3.5 seconds
Magazine Size 40 + 24
Damage 18 > 22
Recoil 0.35
Range 76m
Hip Accuracy 2.0
Aimed Accuracy 0.7

PP-90M1, lets be honest, this weapon has so low damage it's like P90 with a 10+ magazine size. And it's the highest level gun!
Lets buff it!

Fire Rate 600 RPM > 666 RPM
Fire Mode Fully automatic
Reload Time 4 seconds
Magazine Size 50 + 14
Damage 14 > 27
Recoil 0.3
Range 70m
Hip Accuracy 2.8
Aimed Accuracy 1.0

Flamethrower, this weapon's damage is laughable at best, the fire is nice but not worth the donor gun...
Lets buff it!

Fire Rate 400 RPM > 500 RPM
Fire Mode Fully automatic
Reload Time none
Magazine Size 3000 (64 starting ammo)
Damage 14 > 30
Recoil None
Range 12m
Hip Accuracy 3.0
Aimed Accuracy 3.0

 

M16 does more damage than the M4A1 (18 hitpoints), I don't think that's really of an upgrade and besides, War players who are new have a very hard time using new guns since they get destroyed, I've played War long enough to know how the system usually works. I want new players to have a better time rather than "Oh boy! M4A1, it's probably good!" then realizing it's trash and same goes for the AK-47. Automatics are supposed to be very good at mid range combat, they do a lot of damage at mid range for a reason.

 

M4A1's knock-back can be reduced, AK-47 can be the same due to it being a highly powerful weapon, Lemon's knock-back can be reduced so it doesn't have any problems. (I don't know why most of these weapons have powerful knock-back against others. Doesn't matter for the shotguns though)