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Discussion in 'MC-WarZ' started by Mario, Jan 9, 2016.

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  1. nezzr

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  4. Signatured

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    You guys don't understand how we intend to make the team system work.

    • There will be a cap of 5 (subject to change) people allowed in a team.
    • If more than 3 people in the team are online, friendly fire is enabled and cannot be disabled until only 3 or less players are online.

    Thoughts now?

    Also, why do you think the lesser skilled players would quit if a team system was implemented?
     
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    #24 Signatured, Jan 9, 2016
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  5. WarSkater

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    How would this work out? What exactly is the point of having a team plugin if you can just shoot your teammates anyway when there's more than 3 on? Seems like you're completely pushing the point of having a team plugin out.
     
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    #25 WarSkater, Jan 9, 2016
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  6. EndCxre

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    Friendly fire enabled globally:
    - No

    Add teams:
    - Yes

    W8 no!!! No friendly fire omg!
     
  7. Signatured

    Signatured War 2.0 Developer

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    You can still allow up to 3 people online w/o friendly fire. Also, even if there's 4+ people on, they still wont show up on your compass.
     
  8. Ritzy

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    Imo friendly fire above 3 members will suck. 5 people is too many, 4 max no friendly fire.
     
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  9. EndCxre

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    Agreed
     
  10. GlobalistCuck

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    I'm not sure if you've ever played or heard of the practice server ColdPvP. It was the "top" practice server in its day. It had a similar team plugin with a max of 5 players. It didn't work very well. People were being kicked and joining different teams multiple times in a day. You could log off for a few hours and come back and you'd been kicked to make room for someone else. I like my WarZ teams skilled and co-operative, but above all else, loyal. Teams as a whole would be ruined if everyone was constantly leaving and joining, fickle without loyalty.

    And I'd like to raise another point. Why is a 5v2 OK, but a 10v4 is an abomination? The numbers are smaller in a 5v2 but the ratio is the same, 2.5:1. To use an example, for a while I played only with 1 or 2 teammates at once. We avoided snow because Asylum was always there with 5 or 6 players. And then I managed to put together a team that at some points had 8 or 9 players online and suddenly Asylum was outnumbered and Ritzy is a huge advocater of a team plugin. Ritzy wants things to go back to Asylum being top dog with a 5 or 6 man squad and everyone else being bullied by them.

    Skill and numbers are two ways to win fights in WarZ. Why does everyone believe one is better than the other? Limit teams to five players, and even if it works, the team that has the five best players on WarZ will win every single time. Skilled players clump together and less skilled players require more numbers to beat them.

    Overall, here's what will happen to WarZ if this plugin is introduced. Firstly, people will cheat. If people want to play as a team of six, they'll make two teams of three and keep them separate in the fight to avoid friendly fire. People will be accused of cheating, people will flame and DDoS over it, you will try to introduce punishments for finding ways around the plugin and you will fail as people will deny tooth and nail that they were team with the people in question. If it does work, the one team which is the five best WarZ players will rule the server and no one will be able to challenge them. People will log and camp and hack and DDoS to fight these people, since the most obvious and best route open to them; having more people, has been closed off by a silly plugin. And disregarding that issue, people will be leaving and joining teams all the time, no team will properly be able to stay together and things will fall apart.

    And who will everyone blame when all of this happens? You. They will blame the staff team, most likely Ritzy, Signatured and Mario. You'll have another Myortvye crisis on your hands like it did when everyone was telling you the problems with Myortvye. The alternative? Don't introduce this plugin, nothing major will happen. People will complain from time to time, but barely anyone will quit and big teams will fall apart, as they always do. I know that from personal experience.
     
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  11. Ritzy

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    @Skulduggery57 you are being optimistic about this dude. Just let it happen, it could be a game changer in WarZ, it could be exactly what we need. Also if people made 2 teams of 3 they would track each other as enemies so what would the point be?
     
    #31 Ritzy, Jan 10, 2016
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  12. BiomeBuster

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    Friendly fire: Yes
    Teams: Depends on how big the teams are
     
  13. GlobalistCuck

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    Once you know there are enemies, compasses aren't an important factor in a fight. I don't like being pessimistic but can you tell me why any of my concerns about this plugin are invalid? I'd like to hear an opposing argument.
     
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    Spell check changed to pessimistic, I was meaning to say optimistically.
     
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    Exactly what Ritzy said. Only I vote no on the friendly fire.
     
  17. Option

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    Wouldn't it be easier to add a poll to this thread?
     
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  18. ObamaTheReptile

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    no because with limited teams there's no problem

    yes so we can limit teams
     
  19. SPlRlT

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  20. rmure

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    Why didn't mario just mention that in the original post?
     
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