Idea WarZ Community Q&A

Well.. I'm confused on how being able to shoot the people IN YOUR TEAM will be beneficial to having a team plugin in any way.

 

I do not really see where friendly fire needs to come into play if the max amount of playing in a team is 5. Via that your already making a big change in the server of MCWarZ. Maybe wait and see how it goes before adding in the friendly fire, just to see if it is even needed.

 

Hold on, now I'm confused. You know pessimistic means looking at the negatives and optimistic means looking at the positives, right? So pessimistic was right, I was pointing out all the flaws in the idea.

Anyway I'd still like to hear a reason why any of my concerns are invalid, I've raised some real issues with this plugin.

 

Some people are horrible at the game and depend on numbers so that's why they will quit since they can't get kills.

 

No

Yes (max. 5players in my opinion ) with a leader a co- Leader and 3 members, the co- leader should be able to kick max 1 player out of the group so he will be able to play with someone else or if someonw is annoying he's able to remove him. Ad he should be able to invite players.

 

No
Yes

 

yes no

 

I guess I'll take the time to address each of these issues.

I'm not sure if you've ever played or heard of the practice server ColdPvP. It was the "top" practice server in its day. It had a similar team plugin with a max of 5 players. It didn't work very well. People were being kicked and joining different teams multiple times in a day. You could log off for a few hours and come back and you'd been kicked to make room for someone else. I like my WarZ teams skilled and co-operative, but above all else, loyal. Teams as a whole would be ruined if everyone was constantly leaving and joining, fickle without loyalty.

• If you want your team to be "loyal," then they wont leave. If they leave, that doesn't make them very loyal, does it? Kick them out, simple as that. You can even include it in your team rules.

And I'd like to raise another point. Why is a 5v2 OK, but a 10v4 is an abomination? The numbers are smaller in a 5v2 but the ratio is the same, 2.5:1. To use an example, for a while I played only with 1 or 2 teammates at once. We avoided snow because Asylum was always there with 5 or 6 players. And then I managed to put together a team that at some points had 8 or 9 players online and suddenly Asylum was outnumbered and Ritzy is a huge advocater of a team plugin. Ritzy wants things to go back to Asylum being top dog with a 5 or 6 man squad and everyone else being bullied by them.

• Don't why we're calling out other members now, but I'll address this as well. Mario and I have planned to make a team system for a long, long time. Once I saw Ritzy's thread, I realized that it would be nice to have an organized team system on WarZ. We didn't even tell Ritzy we were working on the new system until it was complete, so he really had no impact on our decision.

Overall, here's what will happen to WarZ if this plugin is introduced. Firstly, people will cheat. If people want to play as a team of six, they'll make two teams of three and keep them separate in the fight to avoid friendly fire. People will be accused of cheating, people will flame and DDoS over it, you will try to introduce punishments for finding ways around the plugin and you will fail as people will deny tooth and nail that they were team with the people in question. If it does work, the one team which is the five best WarZ players will rule the server and no one will be able to challenge them. People will log and camp and hack and DDoS to fight these people, since the most obvious and best route open to them; having more people, has been closed off by a silly plugin. And disregarding that issue, people will be leaving and joining teams all the time, no team will properly be able to stay together and things will fall apart.

• If you're saying people will cheat the system, and you're right, they will. But why don't we just let them? As you said, not only will they have to worry about seeing their own team on their compass, but they'll also have to avoid friendly fire as well. This will make tping, rushing and fighting in general much harder than it needs to be with a smaller team. They'll eventually find out it's not the best way to go about it. Just give it time.

And who will everyone blame when all of this happens? You. They will blame the staff team, most likely Ritzy, Signatured and Mario. You'll have another Myortvye crisis on your hands like it did when everyone was telling you the problems with Myortvye. The alternative? Don't introduce this plugin, nothing major will happen. People will complain from time to time, but barely anyone will quit and big teams will fall apart, as they always do. I know that from personal experience.

• To my knowledge, only a small portion of the community actually dislike teams. WarZ players have never liked change, and you know that. Everyone will soon realize with a few tweaking, this will be a good thing. Remember, it's still in beta.

 

BIGGEST SAVAGE

 

Friendly fire's good right?

 

Ultimate best accurate description of the situation.

 

This made me laugh.

 

no
no

 

god have mercy almighty holy free holy No

yeah ok

 

No - Honestly because friendly fire not being enabled globally stays true to the WarZ were all used to playing and it really wouldn't improve much.
Yes - However teams should either have a higher member capacity, OR teams should be allowed to ally a maximum of 2 other teams.

 

Litterally exactly what i was going to say ^ haha

 

I believe these ideas should be implemented (not a gravedig)