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Syrian Refugee Crisis in Europe

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Jaetpack1, Feb 10, 2016.

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What is your opinion?

  1. The Syrian refugees should be let into the countries of Europe because of their rights and problems

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    7.1%
  2. They should be let in because of morality and their right to have shelter

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    35.7%
  3. They should be let in because of their safety

    2 vote(s)
    7.1%
  4. They shouldn't be let in because it's too much of a hassle for Europe

    1 vote(s)
    3.6%
  5. They shouldn't be let in because it would cause mass-distress and crime

    2 vote(s)
    7.1%
  6. They shouldn't be let in because it would cost too much

    2 vote(s)
    7.1%
  7. They shouldn't be let in because Europe's economy can;t handle it

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    14.3%
  8. I am undecided

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    3.6%
  9. It isn't important to me

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    10.7%
  10. It is not a large enough issue and their are bigger pressing issues

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    3.6%
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  1. JoseMigueCarrera

    JoseMigueCarrera Active Member

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    The thread is about arguing and debating, don't worry about that ;p
     
  2. DarSwag

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    I also know a refugee who goes to my school. I met him in my engineering class and he's really cool. And I completely agree when you say that a group of people does not represent the whole population. People are just ignorant because they have an image implanted in their minds that these refugees are all terrorists.
     
  3. Webmant

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    Alright. Real quick, we should cover some basic facts. 0.0002% to 0.0003% of refugees turn out to do terrorist acts or to be connected to a terrorist group. The FBI has released a report covering percentages of terrorist attacks on American soil. 6% of all terrorist attacks on American soil have been due to Islamic extremism. Guess what sort of religious extremism ranks above it? You guessed it, 7% Jewish extremism. Beyond unwarranted fear of a refugee gone terrorist, one may claim that they harm the economy. To arrive at such an invalid claim is absurd and evident of a person who does not know much about economics much at all. First off, more people create a greater demand for domestic product, which is always great for a country's GDP (which, despite being mostly irrelevant in determining the true success of a country, is something that is still used nevertheless), circulation of money, and the keeping of money and value in one's own country. Now, how about those damn refugees and immigrants taking your jobs? Once again, such a belief is evident of one's absolute ignorance of basic economics. According to the theory of NAIRU (Non-Accelerating Inflation Rate of Unemployment), under a Capitalist economy, the unemployment rate will always remain at a certain rate (the NAIRU) which is usually around 4.5% to 6.5%. The only way a refugee or immigrant would be able to steal your job would be if a higher percentage of immigrants and refugees got employed than existing citizens. If this hasn't been drilled into your head hard enough yet, have a diagram.
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  4. C9_Mango

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    Oh my God you just made my day
     
  5. Pegleg98

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    The best solution is to stop the crisis at its source, by ending the war in Syria as soon as possible. Then everyone can go back to their homes and we can all be happy.

    If only certain countries with certain agendas weren't being so detrimental to the peace process...
     
  6. JoseMigueCarrera

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    Peace is expensive, just saying.
     
  7. Vincz

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    God bless you
     
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  8. Hitchens

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    Where do you get your facts.the 30-50years prediction is often based on a believe of an exponential increase of the amount of refugees. And the amount of new refugees cant simply increse at some point.
     
  9. C9_Mango

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    "I'm worried that Europe will turn Muslim."

    You realize that is EXACTLY something Trump would say... Right?
     
  10. Hitchens

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    And russia's bombing... Not isis.... Russia dosnt want to se a united europe. Thats an additional reason for russia to bomb.... Again.... Not isis
     
  11. Vincz

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  12. JoseMigueCarrera

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    @Vincz Let me tell you are wrong, muslims are the people who belive in the islam, if you don't belive in Islam you won't turn into a Muslim. Plus I highly doubt that the whole EU will turn muslim...
     
  13. Vincz

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  14. Jaetpack1

    Jaetpack1 Why jetpack when you can Jaetpack? (RC1)

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    Why would it be a bad thing if a country was predominantly Muslim? What's bad about that? Also, your facts are incorrect about the refugees having 3 kids at an extremely young age. Where did you get that fact? You shouldn't just group every Syrian Refugee into one category: Muslim, has many, many kids, if poor, bad, and so on. It's just not right.
     
  15. JoseMigueCarrera

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    Now I understand what you meant; sadly, for that case, the solution is the same that the Chineses have. Pay for each kid you have besides the first. It's sad, but true
     
  16. Vincz

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  17. Jaetpack1

    Jaetpack1 Why jetpack when you can Jaetpack? (RC1)

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    Why is this a bad thing? And by the way, they're not taking over. They're coming in because they have been unjustly evicted from their homes. They need shelter and care. They can't just be sitting out in the war zone with no hope.
     
  18. Vincz

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  19. Pegleg98

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    I don't believe Muslims are taking over, and, like you, I don't believe we should abandon these people either.

    But, I would like to say that if Muslims were to "take over" so to speak, it would indeed be a bad thing. Are you even aware of what Sharia law is?
     
  20. Hitchens

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    Ah jeesus (im btw a ateist). Thanks for making us all more stupid Vincz.
    Where do you get your facts Vincz..... Just asking
     
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