Tired of the way this gamemode is treated

As much as I hate to say this guys, mcpvp is gone. It won't come back, no matter how much we want it to. Don't hate on brawl. They bought it for us. They continued with it and they tried their best to keep up with the channel on YouTube. What the player base fails to realize is that you can't makeemcpvp videos on a channel that is no longer owned by mcpvp. It doesn't exist, so there is no way to recreate those special memories from when you all used to watch the top 5's. It will never be mcpvp's channel again, so its time to move on, remember the good times, and look ahead to brawl's content.

 

Have you been reading? The thread is about how to revive HG, not about making Brawl MCPVP

 

Some of the brazilian hg famous servers have a 500-1000ms of ping in europe. I dont play hg in br for the high ping and in brawl there is 20-30 players. This is why i dont play hg anymore.

 

I understand that, but to make hg better,we need to let go of the past. If we want to advertise on YouTube we can't be getting backlash from people that expect it to be the exact same it was when mcpvp was out. If we want to add/change/remove kits we can't have people telling us no because those kits were there since mcpvp. In order to move forward we can't keep looking back.

 

None of us in this thread are like that though, yeah some youtube people are but it would be amazing if brawl put some effort into the youtube channel for HG, which is what most people subscribed for originally anyways

Sorry but i have to point some things out
1. This thread is hardly about MCPVP at all so i don't understand the first part of your post
2. No one in this thread is hating on brawl it's all constructive criticism
3. Just because its not mcpvp doesn't mean we they can't upload Hardcore games, it's been almost a year since they have tried uploading anything HG

I really think you missed the point of this thread

 

I may have mixed this up, but for HG to have a huge fan base....those people that we say are "fans" need to have heard of and played on McPvP in the first place. A fan is not a person that may potentially like something, that's called...a potential fan?

If @TheMafias meant advertising for new players, instead of the "HUGE fan base", I apologize for the mini rant in there and suggest that this is made more clear by changing around the wording.

@jarboyp I like the idea of benefits for voting, but it's incredibly easy to go overboard, especially with a gamemode like HG. Say that 1 vote = 1 kit rent for a day. I know that Kanga got nerfed, but I'd be pissed to hell if I logged onto HG one day and found the whole server playing Kanga or some other annoying mobility kit.

I made my point above^

 

The YouTube channel gets a mere fraction of the views it used to. That's not a really reliable advertising place to go, I mean, look at their latest video. 2000 views?

No doubt that those view counts will rise a lot more if Brawl posts actual HG content, but I believe that the damage has done. I don't think Brawl will ever get 50000 eyes on their HG video content (should they post it) because a lot of the subscribers have simply become disinterested in whatever comes from there, if view counts say anything at all.

HG has a HUGE fan base, yes, yes it does. But tell me this: did Katniss Everdeen punch wood with her fist? Were tributes invincible for 2 minutes after the games started? Were the tributes able to pay $2.50 and in return get to double jump (Kanga)? Were the tributes able to pay $15/month (or whatever the price was for the respawn) and get revived if they died 5 minutes into the game?

All of the above answers are no. Hardcore Games (mind you) took the basic essence of Hunger Games, which was place a bunch of people in a world with next to nothing, and let them fight it out. That's really the only "Hunger Games" aspect we have in the Hardcore Games.

McPvP transformed that, partly to provide a better experience, and partly to make a structure where they could profit out of it. Cue in purchaseable kits and respawns.

To make my point clear, Hardcore Games is transformative enough to not attract the fans of Hunger Games. Hunger Games people will probably not be looking for a gamemode where a kit can give you the advantage, because there was no such thing in the book or the movies. And that's not mentioning the fact that Hunger Games fans don't necessarily play Minecraft. So again, I don't think you could advertise to the huge fanbase behind the Hunger Games.

Potential Fans: I'd describe these as people that haven't heard of Hardcore Games or Hunger Games, take your pick, but enjoy similar things and may enjoy Hardcore Games. These are the people that Brawl would figure out the demographics of and plan/create their advertisements accordingly.

As for this turning into an argument, this whole thread invites people to argue. By proposing what I believe to be radical changes (like taking out half the kits "because no one uses them") you are inviting people of differing beliefs to post why they don't agree with you. I'm surprised that you even need to say that "this is turning into an argument", I thought that was readily apparent.

I also suggest that you make your thread a bit more clear, because just stating that HG (and not specifying which HG, the Hunger Games book series, or Hardcore Games) has a huge fanbase and then saying you were talking about the book series is just downright confusing.

 

Yes, indeed. I think it's also worth mentioning that computers need electricity to run.

It's also worth mentioning that your post didn't answer anything I said, which interests me.

 

I've answered all of those. But I'll do it again..

Yes, and that is already apparent with the fact that HG was successful in the first place, and how about over half of the games on Steam tend to have violence of some sort in it. I never made a post disputing this point either.

Again, I ask that you clarify which "HG" you are talking about when you say "HG". Hunger Games or Hardcore Games? A distinction needs to be made because lack of one is part of the reason this whole "arguement" started in the first place.

Anyways, HARDCORE GAMES used to have a big fan base. It no longer does, or we'd have more players on Brawl Hardcore Games, now wouldn't we?

I just saw the YouTube channel, and the comments on it. Most of the people there are just whining for the old McPvP to come back. That's not really a reliable place to advertise. If you even look at the view counts, you can see that those go nowhere near the 50000 subscribers. I'm pretty sure most of the 2400 views on the Wild West BRAWL Trailer video (the most recent one) are the people trash talking Brawl. They're not there for the trailer, they're just there to troll.

Of course, Brawl could tweak Hardcore Games to make it like "#BackOldMcPvP", but if they're not, good luck trying to get any good number of actually interested eyes looking at it.

HUNGER GAMES (the book) has a HUGE fan base. I agree with this. But I pointed out that Hardcore Games has transformed everything but the most basic concept of Hunger Games (which is to fight it out, which Hunger Games didn't even invent in the first place) so that advertising to the Hunger Games crowd won't be effective.

Since all of that is aside, the only thing left is the main thread, which I already did. And I'm not going to repeat it either.

Honestly, your replies just keep getting lazier and lazier. You don't bother to spell check, and you bring up general points (like "people like violence in video games") as your arguments. Is this really how "veterans" of McPvP make points?

 

Brawl admins don't care enough about HG

 

Post a thread proposing big changes where people are bound to disagree, reply half heartedly and lazily to any criticism of it, tell criticizer to "agree to disagree", and call it a day. Yes, I am in utter shock at the effectiveness.

 

Had you conceded the points I was making I wouldn't consider you lazy. But I think I already pointed out that I've answered every point you made in your thread and every point you made after I made my points. Instead you continue to say that I should just refer back to your thread when, like I'm about to say again, I've already said what was wrong with those points made there.

But if I managed to make no one else comment here anymore, I think I can call it a day.

 

Please return to the original topic of this thread, further off topic posts will be deleted.

 

So I guess I'm a bit confused on this :/ You have the McPvP YT channel, apparently, but when you try and post videos, you get bad feedback because McPvP is dead and gone. And I guess I can see how that makes sense, in some people's eyes.
The part I'm most confused on overall, is why are you using the McPvP channel? HG is Brawl property now, right? I would think it would have its own little spot on a Brawl YT channel. Do people post bad feedback because something like "Only McPvP should be doing HG videos!" Or something?
I don't generally just get on Youtube and watch people to find out what games I should be playing, but I assume that some people do it, so that is what YT advertising is for. I think.
I'm totally oblivious to how all that works though, which is why I am asking. I'm really confused.

 

Why doesn't Brawl put the McPvP YT channel to good use instead of continuing to upload an evidently dead series? Uploading HG videos such as new updates, gameplays and event promotions (not sure why there was never a video regarding the previous HG tournament uploaded) would be a great attempt to attract old McPvP players.