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  1. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ayo why you lookin

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    Certain things need to happen before we just completely reset a server. Things have to be changed/updated, removed/added, and everything in general needs to be prepared. This takes time. The more you flame, complain, or call the Brawl staff team liars, the less appreciated we feel for the work we are doing so you can play your gamemodes.

    Have patience. Our Devs, Builders, and Admins need time, and only you can give them that. We don't possess a magical wand that we can wave to have SPvP reset instantaneously. If Brawl says that it will be soon, then it will be soon.
     
    #41 SoullessAngel_, Jul 17, 2016
  2. cowcat13

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    @_Featherpaw_
    1. How am I at all hurting myself?
    2. I have never seen you once play survival pvp.
    3. Why would it matter if I am not on much, when all of the other super active players are pushing for this reset also?
     
    #42 cowcat13, Jul 17, 2016
  3. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ayo why you lookin

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    This is the kind of thing our staff is here to do. You have to also understand that we can't be everywhere at once, and we have to make tough decisions concerning what looks like X-ray, what to release to the community, and what to tell them concerning resets. As stated above, we aren't all powerful.
     
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  4. GetShadowRealmed

    GetShadowRealmed What do I put here

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    I don't play spvp so I can't really feel what you feel sorry. I'm just here cause people are making such a big deal about it. War 2.0 has been #soon for so long yet has just recently been started on.
     
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    #44 GetShadowRealmed, Jul 17, 2016
  5. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ayo why you lookin

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    It doesn't matter if she's never played Survival. You can't call the people trying to reset the server ALONG WITH other projects and tasks that have to be completed that they lied to you.
     
    #45 SoullessAngel_, Jul 17, 2016
  6. AnonymousGalaxy

    AnonymousGalaxy Raid Manager | Manager of Managing | Legacy

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    Honestly cowcat13 is probably more active than you on Survival, time zones are a thing tho so idk. I still agree with staff, we should just stay patient, given time if they don't hold up their end and reset the server soon many people will leave.
     
    #46 AnonymousGalaxy, Jul 17, 2016
  7. cowcat13

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    Sorry we have been patient, we have given 8 months of time, we have allowed the developers instead work on new game modes such as slither or wild west. We have allowed the developers to cop out of working on the survival pvp reset. It is time that they put 100% of their time into this, not other sectors of brawl. It isn't about having a magic wand of suddenly doing the reset, it is about them not fooling around with other game modes and finally work on the one game mode in which has waited more than 8 months
     
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    #47 cowcat13, Jul 17, 2016
  8. Compability

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    It might be because you never play lmao. He is very active
     
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  9. cowcat13

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    They aren't trying to reset it though, if they truly were how come the developers have come up with several other new gamemodes, instead of just putting 100% of their time into survival pvp. Also they have lied being that the word soon has been used for 8 months, if that isn't considered a lie, look up the word soon in the dictionary.
     
    #49 cowcat13, Jul 17, 2016
  10. SillyPickles

    SillyPickles Well-Known Member

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    LOLL Are you kidding me? You still have your rank because the rest of staff don't know anything about hackers/xrayers either LOL I've been falsebanned by an admin before for the love of god... And frost doesn't need to apply for mod if he doesn't want to wtf is wrong with you? Don't try to turn this around on him.

    Stop saying soon. Seriously. You're irritating spvp players. And what do you mean LMAO your dev QUIT LOL and the only time staff actually do something in survival is falseban and reboot the server for a good 15 seconds before it starts lagging yet again. You're literally being one of those people that i described in my first post.
     
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  11. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ayo why you lookin

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    1: EULA crisis screwed us over, prompting the current projects having been set aside to make it so Brawl can make money to run the server.
    2: Development of other gamemodes to keep a variation in the community. The world doesn't revolve around you, so get in line to wait for work to be done.
    3: You can complain, call us liars, and try to find faults in what we're doing, but you aren't contributing by criticizing and harassing the staff team when they won't reset your server. Plain and simple.

    Read above statement. If you have something to suggest to us that would help us do our jobs better and faster, suggest it instead of constantly complaining. It doesn't help.
     
    #51 SoullessAngel_, Jul 17, 2016
  12. Lord_Roke

    Lord_Roke Forever the Forums Watchdog
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    Putty is without a doubt the most active and busy staff member of Brawl and he is doing everything he can to keep the servers up already.
    Of course we will bring up your ban records when you apply for staff; they show if you followed the server rules you will have to enforce as a staff member. I would understand if you criticized us for ignoring past punishments of staff members but there is certainly nothing wrong with taking them into account.

    It is ironic that you call out Mods and JMods for "flaming" and insult them at the same time, doing exactly what you accused them of doing.

    Short history of the PvP Survival reset:
    First, we just wanted to do a normal reset in January 2016. However, it turned out that the code of the server was severely broken, causing lag and other bugs. So it was decided to re-code the server which @Ktar5 worked on since then.
    We are aware that this took a long time and I can't really tell you why since I personally didn't talk to Ktar that much.
    On 8th July Ktar5 resigned from Developer, without finishing the new version of SPvP, even though he got pretty far. Now another Developer needs to pick up his work, understand the code and how Ktar planned everything and then finished coding it. This task was assigned to @Mario and he started working on it yesterday.
    This means we did not ignore everyone, we did not push aside the issues of SPvP and we did hire a coder to fix it.

    It is correct that using the term "soon" was wrong. However, we never said anything about a date for the reset and we won't in the future. Any release dates that are rumored are not official.
    As you can read above, the largest issue right now is that Ktar resigned. We apologize for the delays beforehand, but there is nothing we could or can do about the developer in charge of the project resigning.

    Brawl currently has 11 servers and they all require attention. We are always working on multiple projects at the same time, the development of WildWest and Slither didn't have any influence on SPvP since Ktar wasn't involved in the development of these gamemodes.

    Having all 6 developer work on the same project would probably slow down the process rather than speed it up since in the end the code needs to work together and splitting up a project so much would cause issues in the end.
    As I have said above, the project was assigned to @Mario and he will now focus on it.

    Finally: If you can't continue this discussion without flaming at others, the thread will be locked.
     
    #52 Lord_Roke, Jul 17, 2016
  13. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ayo why you lookin

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    There we go folks. It came straight from the horses mouth. SPvP is not being neglected in any way.
     
    #53 SoullessAngel_, Jul 17, 2016
  14. cowcat13

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    @_Glock34 to what you said before


    1. The Eula "crisis" was a 2 week affair, in which doesn't cover exactly 26 weeks, of which the reset should have happened.
    2. I understand it doesn't revolve around us, but to say soon for 8 months is simply disgusting to keep the survival pvp audience hanging. You can at least say it will be a long while until it will be done, instead of lying and keeping a hook on the community. Also these other game modes weren't even a thought 8 months ago, in which should have had the developers focused plainly on survival pvp reset.
    3. I am contributing to the community, in the way that I set awareness of how poor your staff team is in organization. I need them to realize how poor of a performance you staff have forced them to do. You make them take their focus off of one game mode survival and make them focus on others, which is disorganized. Ktar left because of you people giving him several tasks in a disorganized fashion, what's next?

    Please go back to the wild west and moderate the chat, instead of making lightweight claims to defend your fellow moderators.
     
    #54 cowcat13, Jul 17, 2016
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  15. SillyPickles

    SillyPickles Well-Known Member

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    Lol
    1.The eula crisis is a recent thing the server was supposed to reset back somewhere at the beginning of 2016.
    2.We did get in line.. It's been like over 7 months
    3.They aren't resetting the server no matter what we say or do lol

    Oh you're so right ;3 complaining doesn't help. But we can do whatever the hell we want lol if we think you guys aren't doing anything about spvp then you can't stop us from hating. And at this point we won't even believe what roke said lol i mean FFS LOL SPONGES DON'T WORK! And you're only helping me prove my point lol you're one of those people that i described in my previous post where you either don't play spvp or you don't care about it. Go back to wildwest. You're only irritating the spvp community more and more by defending them with weak arguements
     
    #55 SillyPickles, Jul 17, 2016
  16. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ayo why you lookin

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    The War community has been waiting for war 2.0 for about a year now, and they haven't been posting rants about the staff team lying.

    Of course you can complain, all Im saying is that you should ask, as community members, what you can do to help bring the changes you want sooner instead of ranting on the forums and overall being intensively unhelpful to the current situation.

    If you don't believe what an admin says, that's your issue. They gave you the truth, it's your choice to either believe it or don't, and how to interpret what Roke told you.

    We supposedly overloaded Ktar with work, but you don't even know the reasons behind his resignation? It was less than 50% related to Brawl.

    I don't have to go back to Wild West, and I'm not told by any staff or community members where I spend my time moderating chat. I spend my time where the largest issues are, namely, this thread.

    Keep in mind that the thread is being watched for flame. It's your choice to interpret what I have said, or dismiss it as the words of a JMod who doesn't even play your server, as you put it.
     
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    #56 SoullessAngel_, Jul 17, 2016
  17. SillyPickles

    SillyPickles Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. War players should know best about this type of issue. And we aren't war players? Duh lol Also idgaf why ktar left lol all that matters is he left.
     
    #57 SillyPickles, Jul 17, 2016
  18. Praisekek

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    win rar
     
    #58 Praisekek, Jul 17, 2016
  19. cowcat13

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    What I can do to make the reset sooner, is set awareness for how poor and slow it has been to have the reset happen. We have been told we can't even have 1.7 which almost all of the pvp community wants. It is the mods responsibility to handle the developers with organization. K tar however was used for several different jobs. You need to learn organization, and possibly we could have had a reset long ago. As earlier mentioned other people focused on war which I really couldn't care less about, but people also focused on survival pvp. These people were set up with several other jobs which you can prevent with the several developers you claim to have. Feel free to lock this thread up with flame, but just know that will come across as 1. Lightweight, 2. Cowardly, and 3. Insecure about talking about your own server. I have had enough talking back to arguments being that several mods have been sent to gang up on me, when none of them even go near the survival pvp servers ever before this thread had happened.
     
    #59 cowcat13, Jul 17, 2016
  20. LegitMonkeyftw

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    @_Glock34 ok let's clear some things up, first of all, it's been 2 years now they war 2.0 was promised and the community has tried to come together to help survival PvP. For crying out loud we even even wanted to donate just so that the server would be better maintained but guess what, that was ignored. Around $800 was the total amount that players were able to scrap up to try and help the server but no, it was ignored.
     
    #60 LegitMonkeyftw, Jul 17, 2016
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