Screenshare Protocol #MakeWarZNotDeadAgain

this is invasion of my privacy i never done did that hack what the fack

 

Out of the 8 times I've used /report, 5 mods have come and then did their thing.

Maybe KitBrawl's better for answering the /report?

 

Wouldn't shock me.

 

Xraying and macroing are much harder to detect and deal with than antiknockback and Killaura, which is the norm for Kitbrawl.

Antiknockback and killaura = easier to deal with, so mods are more willing to deal with it. Therefore more mods come to a report on Kitbrawl.

Xray and macro = harder to deal with, so less mods are willing to deal with it.Therefore less mods come to a report on WarZ.

There's your correlation. Pretty bloody simple if you ask me.

And I thought the topic was screensharing?

 

I've taken the time to read this whole thread (which was probably a waste of my time), but I just want to say, from what I've seen, these mods defending putty must be brainwashed of some sort. I don't understand their illogical sense of thinking on this topic and how they don't see how desperately there needs to be a change. Their ridiculous opinions on screensharing humor me. I know as a mod you can not override putty, but putty's view on this whole situation with hackers is toxic. I don't see what you have to lose putty, your server will die soon. Its only a matter of time. Look at your numbers. I highly guarantee they slowly decrease in ever category over the past few years including donations and player count. #ChangeOrDie

Major props to @ritzy for being the only mod to think with a brain and take a stand for this mess. Also, good work @dalt0n and @Rriordan.

 

omfg just ip ban the hackers

 

What I gather from this response is that you'd prefer hackers over getting rid of them.

Anyone can easily change their ip

Beautiful. This is 50/7 in my book.

 

Have you even read any of the responses? I'm not assuming so.

1: Easy to trick

It's been mentioned before, but those with the slightest bit of know-how when it comes to computers will know how to make it seem as if their .minecraft folders are completely clean of hack clients, even if they are installed.

In fact, I, the divine bringer of love, trinity, compassion, and evasion of stupid screenshare, will teach you how to evade screenshares like I taught you how to evade taxes.

so...

Step 1: Locate .minecraft

If you don't know how to do this, how'd you install a hack client??? Like what?

2: Hiding .minecraft

Before you do this, make a shortcut to .minecraft. I'm not going to explain how to do that, but Google is your friend.

So...it's pretty simple tbh, but once you find .minecraft, right click, and left click "Properties". It should bring up the below window:

https://gyazo.com/8d561878919d51c6cf912f1d3b31c936
(notice that I had to blur out my full name, you'd know my full name if I hadn't blurred it out)

This is the window that you should see on the screen, if it's not, simply navigate to "General" at the top of the screen.

It should look pretty obvious, but on "Attributes", check "Hidden". Then click "Apply". Then press "OK".

Well if you check back in %appdata%, there won't be a .minecraft folder.

It's that easy!

But since I am divine in my gracious presence among you PC master race servants, I will teach you how to also create a decoy .minecraft file, FOR I AM GENEROUS IN MY TRINITY AND COMPASSION.

So in the %appdata% directory, make a new folder, then when it prompts you to enter a filename, type ".min℮craft.". IT IS EXTREMELY CRUCIAL THAT YOU INSERT BOTH PERIODS. (directly copy and paste the stuff within the quotes, you'll see why in a second).

You might notice that the "e" is a bit off. THAT'S CAUSE IT IS. That e is a special unicode thingie that I spent all of 3 minutes looking for because you can't use the filename ".minecraft." because that's taken by the original ".minecraft.".

Anyways, here's the end result:


https://gyazo.com/8cfb31568a0df13bbe9efeb719ac36f9

Go to your original .minecraft folder.


https://gyazo.com/61f826cb2d3cc00d1f52337693a547b1

Copy all of that, put that into your new ".minEcraft." folder. Then go to "versions", and erase any hack clients.

And there you freaking go. Thank God for me.

2: Stigma

If the above wasn't enough for you to get the hint, well....

What of the stigma associated with Brawl if screenshare becomes a thing?

Let me tell you a story.

A man was walking down the road when suddenly another dude with a gun demanded that the man pull down his pants so that the dude with a gun could see the man's underwear. The dude with the gun threatened to shoot the man if he didn't pull down his pants, and said "You have two choices, pull down your pants or I shoot you right in the kisser".

What are you thinking right now about the dude with a gun? You're probably thinking that he's pretty messed up.

Well, full-on spoiler, the dude with the gun IS A MOD FORCING A PLAYER TO SCREENSHARE(pull down the pants *wink wink*). OR GET BANNED IF THEY REFUSE TO (get shot in the kisser).

People will not think highly of Brawl if the staff team goes around forcing players to share their screen.

How much will that cost Brawl? I think a negative stigma that is associated on borderline invasion of privacy will cost Brawl a lot. How about you?

3: Guilty until proven innocent? (you god damn bellends)

Since when is guilty until proven innocent a thing? Why should I, a player that hasn't so much as searched up a client, have to prove my innocence by letting a mod probe through my files at their discretion? The point of a moderator is to find those that are breaking the rules and prove that they are breaking the rules. Not immediately assume that the player in question is breaking the rules and force the player to prove themselves innocent.

Do we tell people that are being accused of a crime to prove themselves innocent? No, we don't. And it should stay that way.

4: Conclusion

You people that continue to support screenshare protocol haven't answered anything of the negative stigma associated with screensharing. You look only at the immediate benefits screensharing may bring, but believe me, Brawl will be much worse if they're known as the server that "pulls down your pants".

I hope @ritzy gets around to reading this, and understands that the general efficacy of screensharing is barely positive at best, and very very very destructive at worst.

 

It's sad to see that a solution for the hacking has finally come about and got enough attention but the ignorance of the people blinds them and they say no just because it's a new system. You people need to realize that change will happen, regardless of what you do or say. Something will change in some way. Causing this to not happen won't change anything other than my opinion on you.

 

I like how you didn't answer any points I made.

"It's sad to see that a solution for the hacking has finally come about and got enough attention"

It's a bloody horrible solution. First off, people are going to raise a storm about the invasion of privacy by Brawl. That's not gonna be good for Brawl. People are going to be able to easily create fake .minecraft folders. That's not gonna be good for Brawl.

It's gotten attention because the early posters on this thread acted like upper class entitled whiny skids whenever they were told by a staff member or others that screensharing was a bad idea and would not be implemented. They didn't so much as address the counterarguments made by the staff team as they did call all opposing opinions "braindead" and whine about how Brawl will die 100% if this crappy system is not implemented.

"but the ignorance of the people blinds them and they say no just because it's a new system. You people need to realize that change will happen, regardless of what you do or say."

Our "ignorance" is far better supported with facts rather than your hypothetical predictions as to what will happen if screensharing is implemented.

Okay, sure, some hackers will be caught. But hackers will smarten up and find out how to bypass these screenshare checks, and the overall negative image Brawl will get for forcing players to screenshare or get banned won't be good in the long term.

"Something will change in some way. Causing this to not happen won't change anything other than my opinion on you."

Yes, something should change. There should be a better system of catching hackers. However, screensharing is not a good way to go about it. The reasons are in my lengthy post above.

Instead of preaching and moaning about our alleged "ignorance", why don't you spend some god damn time addressing the counterpoints to your arguments?

 

If I was tryharding for mod, I wouldn't talk about insertion of corndogs into my bumhole, lmao. I'd be a bit more courteous and respectful towards you people that do nothing but insult when someone disagrees with you, if I wanted staff.

I don't give a god damn corn dog in my nose about staff, so I'm not gonna bother with being civilized.

No, I'm being "that one guy" because you seem to have deluded yourself to the level of No Man's Sky fangirls that screensharing is a remotely good solution. And it's not. I pointed out clearly why it isn't and so far, all you've done is just insult insult insult instead of come up with anything resembling a coherent sentence that proves that screensharing is a good method of catching haxors.

 

Refrain from flaming at others or this thread will be locked.

 

Oh lol... all that stuff can be undone simply by pressing ctrl + h in ubuntu (cant remember the key combinations in windows)....

But i have to agree with that "pulls down your pants thing", to a certain exctent.

 

Yes, it's easily undone, just go into the View tab and check "hidden files". But then people can keep finding ways to bypass the "hidden files" being checked and then this loop keeps repeating until screenshare checks end up taking much too long to be considered efficient.

The "pulls down your pants" thing is a bit extreme, definitely, but so are some of the people supporting screensharing.

 

Well if you can come up with a better way then stop wasting your time replying to me and DO something then. This idea is the best Brawl has other than letting the hackers roam free as is. By all means impress us all with a better system than what is currently implemented.

 

"This idea is the best Brawl has other than letting the hackers roam free as is."

And screensharing is a bloody horrible idea. I don't know how many times I've said it, but here you go again: it's a bloody horrible idea. Once more? Okay. It's a bloody horrible idea. All of my reasoning as to why is much earlier in the thread.

As for suggesting a better system, there isn't one that I can think of. I didn't come here to suggest another idea, I came here to show that screensharing isn't a solution, and never will be.

The other problem with suggesting a new solution is that the hack trying to be caught is XRay. If it was killaura or the like, we wouldn't even be having this problem.

Xray is clearly a difficult hack to prove that someone is using. It takes huge amounts of spectating to even begin to prove that someone is XRaying, and that's not even mentioning how players might be falsely banned or how hackers might make a storm about "Brawl unfairly banning" and Brawl not being able to produce conclusive evidence that those hackers actually hacked. Even if moderators did record spectating an XRayer (which would be minutes and a minutes of footage), people would still cry "fake ban!!!!11!!" (because that's what they do) and generally just make things unpleasant.

There's not a good way to outright ban Xrayers, so the next best thing to do would be to make their Xraying an inconvenience.

And this is where a new thread is made and those that have actually used Xray before discuss how to make Xraying inconvenient. That's not knowledge I have and not knowledge I wish to find out.

 

I'll say it once more too, this is the best idea Brawl has other than letting the hackers roam free as is. I'll also say this again: Stop wasting your time replying to me and actually DO something that doesn't revolve around screen sharing since you think it's a terrible idea. If it's so terrible then another, more "logical" solution should be easy to come by right? Clearly not, so it has to be a dang good idea.