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  1. MattM1PVP

    MattM1PVP Ex-HG Staff Member

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    I have a friend, or "friend", who drains me emotionally. He's 2 years older than me. He pretty much empties all his problems on me every time we meet, and sometimes asks me for advice on how to help. This has happened on and off for the last 1 and a half years. Pretty much all of his messages are asking me to meet up for him to rant or him ranting over text.

    He knows this, and he's trying to mend the situation by having more friendly talks and not unloading all of his problems on me every time we meet. And so, I give him a chance. His texts become more friendly, and we met once to chill.

    However, now he's back to his old ways. He says that he's gonna have one final rant, and then he's done, and we're gonna be friends for the rest of ****ing eternity, but I have a gut feeling he's gonna start ranting again to me whenever he's down. Besides, I can't take anymore of his ****ing rants, I'll get stressed as hell and won't be able to focus on anything. I want to end this "friendship" for good, but I don't have the heart to as he's currently taking a very major exam in 2 months, and we're still in the same school, which means we might meet randomly and it's going to be very difficult.

    What should I do? If anyone has any advice please tell me, I really need good advice now.
     
  2. Piky

    Piky Well-Known Member

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    From my advice that I've gone through this.
    Sometimes, you need a break. Even if ignoring someone or more for the purpose of sanity and telling them you need a break. We all go through a point where we had enough and need to ignore that point of annoyance.
    And hey, if your friend wants to meet me, I'd gladly hear out all that he has to offer. Trying to help your sanity here.
     
  3. williamthegreat

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    r/advice might offer some help.
     
  4. SoMuchWinning

    SoMuchWinning Well-Known Member

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    FTFY

    What does he rant about?
    Well, besides that, I think you should take a break or cut ties, if you can't stand him. You don't deserve be treated like that and I'd suggest to maybe explain to him that his ranting isn't good/healthy for your friendship.

    I myself have a **** ton of problems but I ain't complaining.
     
  5. MattM1PVP

    MattM1PVP Ex-HG Staff Member

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    He mainly rants about how much schoolwork he has to do, and how stressed he is. For the record, he is the one who got himself into this situation, by procrastinating so much and being unwilling to prioritize the more important stuff (eg: if he has to choose between an 2.5k word essay due the next day and a hike with friends, he'll go hiking).

    I've tried having a break, I ignored him for about 5 months. After that, I was willing to listen to about 1 to 2 more rants of his, before I began to dread every single one of his meets.
     
  6. SoCool21

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    If I were in this situation, I'd just ask him to talk to someone else. Tell him all the rants are making you stressed and depressed, and you don't think you're the right person to help him out.

    You don't need to end your friendship with him, as long as he stops ranting at you. His problems aren't your problems, they're not something you should have to worry about.
     
  7. Miskey

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    There are professionals that he can talk to about situations like that. Putting all that burden on a friend isn't helpful.
     
  8. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    I'm not a professional nor have I experienced this situation as much as you have (for a year and a half straight), but my mother has been done this way by a lot of her 'friends' over her fifty five years. The way you're feeling about the situation is pretty similar to the way my mum felt about the ones she had to deal with. Here's how she deals with that sort of thing now: she doesn't let them unload on her. In other words "you want to unload all your problems on me? Fine, but I'm not going to be here to listen to them"

    I've had the same issue where I'm really ticked about something and sometimes I end up unloading on someone. However, I try to make my rants at least somewhat funny. By the sound of it, that is not what your friend is doing. From my mother's experience, friendships are as heavily dependent on mutual respect as they are about chemistry (a lot like relationships actually). According to her, my father is the only real friend she's ever had. What your friend is doing is not being a friend (with the exception of the 'chill' interlude you mentioned) since he clearly does not respect you enough to treat you like an actual person who has their own problems, frustrations, and life, and are instead using you as their personal punching bag. You say that he knows what he's doing, has gone back to his "old ways", and that you want to end the friendship. You also say that he gets himself into stressful situations and then complains to you about how stressed he is. That's the no.1 sign that you're dealing with someone who is using their goodwill with you to compensate for their own immaturity because they can't get control over their own life and responsibilities.

    If you haven't already I'd tell him straight up that if he can't deal with his own problems in a mature way instead of dumping them on you, then you're not going to have anything to do with him. If he can't respect that and goes back to his "old ways" then, from my mother's experience and mine, I think it would be wisest to end the friendship. That's what my mother does when people try to do her this way nowadays and it has really helped her mental health. As others have already said, you shouldn't have to put up with this sort of thing from anyone.

    Professional psychiatrists (other adult figures etc.) would be better people to ask for help with this sort of problem than a bunch of dudes on a Minecraft forum but that's just my two cents.
     
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  9. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

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    Sup Fellas,

    Friends should be able to talk about problems but if it isn’t mutual then it doesn’t benefit you. I don’t let people dump problems on me. It’s a skill that takes time to develop.

    Tip #1: Tell your friend, when he as problems, that he wants to talk about he has to have ideas for solutions too.

    Tip #2: When talking about problems focus on 1 at a time.

    • When your friend presents a problem ask “so what’s your plan?” or “what are you going to do about it?” and do this for every problem.
    Tip #3: If he has stupid problems like I didn’t do my homework because I went hiking…

    • Tell him, “so you had a choice and you elected to go hiking vs doing your homework…sounds like you didn’t make a wise decision” and move on.

    Evil
     
  10. MattM1PVP

    MattM1PVP Ex-HG Staff Member

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    Thanks guys. You guys have helped me a lot :smile:
     
  11. BAWSS5

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    Hey.

    I went through a time where I had to dump my stress on someone else for a while, and I'll tell you right now that it sucks to be on either end.

    What I found helpful was to write my issues out, in detail, then discard the papers/delete the files. It felt like I was letting out my worries, while not having to dump them on other people.

    I recommend that you ask your friend to do the same. It certainly doesn't work for everyone, but it's an idea.
     
  12. TheSinisterOne

    TheSinisterOne Goodbye

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    First of by "draining you emotionally" does he make you feel like you have no value or does he make you feel bad for him. And if you don't have the heart to end your friendship that just shows that you guys are close and what he's doing really isn't that mind boggling to you. (Correct me if I'm wrong)

    Honestly you don't have to ignore him completely. Also you can just tell him to stop ranting to him and you really are starting to get stressed out. And if he doesn't listen to that then you know he really doesn't give a f*ck about you. Otherwise just change the topic or make yourself less available if he has to ask you to meet him to rant to you.
     
  13. featherpaw

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    @yinscape

    My best advice is to cut ties. If you've done so for 5 months straight then he clearly doesn't seem to mind the separation.

    I understand that you want to be there for him and give him emotional support as he figures things out in life, but I also know how taxing it can be to constantly have to listen to depressing talks.

    There comes a time where everyone has to do things for his or herself. I know you think you're doing the right thing, but after a time, that person will come to rely on you for emotional support and they will become lazy and mopey. Once that happens, they won't want to rectify the situation. Take away that support, and they need to decide to stand on their own.

    That doesn't mean you have to ignore him, but it does mean that you can't take away all the pain for him. Only he can choose to change himself.
     
  14. MattM1PVP

    MattM1PVP Ex-HG Staff Member

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    I'm not close to him, I just don't want to cut ties at the moment because he's going through a major exam and if I cut ties now he might fail it very badly. And by draining me emotionally I mean that I start to feel his pain, and because of that I spend a few nights struggling to sleep.

    @_Featherpaw_ he minds the separation, he got all worried that I was ignoring him. Thanks for the advice feather and baws, I'll think about it
     
  15. yinscape

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    Everyone else has already said most of what I think already, so I'll keep this short.
    No matter how you might feel, you should always come first. Very rarely in life should you suffer and endure for someone else's well being. If you feel it gets bad enough, a well placed "please, shut the **** up" followed by a "I'm not talking to you to be miserable" is not out of the question.
     
  16. RyGuy

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    Honestly, I think if you cut ties with him, it will benefit you greatly. However, I think you need to talk to your friend, and tell him how you feel about him. You need to let him know that you want to be friends, but you can't deal with his constant ranting. Like, if that's even making you lose sleep over it, you need to cut ties with him. Also, as Yin said, sometimes you just have to be tough on him. People need to learn how to deal with their problems. In my opinion, cutting ties would be beneficial for both of you.
     
  17. IronRaven

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    Out of the mouths of babes
     
  18. yinscape

    yinscape The Hedgehog Princess

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    I say rarely because the situation described doesn't seem to be one that would warrant it.
     
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    retweet
     
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