New Spawn?

It suits the spawn.
It also looks so ****ing good at night.

 

Guess we should've made it Spongebob themed.

 

I'm not sure what I can say to all this. I mean, I guess if the majority of players want an older spawn that I helped build with older members no longer around, then sure - that's that. Nostalgia or actual dislike. I'm just a little blown away at how the majority of you go about giving criticism sometimes.

I can add more lighting above ground and below(which I've done a bit already), along with more color above ground. The color thing is throwing me off, because the ONLY spawn with this color you might be looking for, was the underwater themed one. Underground is full of PvP chances with 4 pig spawners, one in each room, all non symmetrical except for the foundation design itself. Outside spawn is organic with towers and buildings that respawn everytime the server reboots. Platform size has stayed 123 since day 1 of survival(now called raid). If you think this doesn't scream "survival", neither does any of the other spawns - if we're actually throwing the idea of a survival design concept to any of the spawns we've ever had. Maybe the jungle one I made, but not even then. It's the most basic of basic concepts. A 123 x 123 platform with the bare minimal like a pig spawner or a place to chill with the possibility of hidden/cool areas to explore. The interesting isn't above ground, maybe a mistake, but there's 10x more interesting underground. Hidden dragon eggs, secret rooms and A LOT of color - dark because it's underground. There should be enough lighting. If not, I'll add more. c:

The South to North may be a disorienting change, but you spawn in facing a direction. It's just not the same letter you've been use to seeing for months at end. Not sure how the portal is in a horrid place. It's actually a doable challenge to get up inside the dragon. Is the difficulty the problem or not accepting change?

Some of you like what you like, all is good. If it's really something you guys don't want, a new spawn/old one can always be re-added/built.

Not really sure I got all that great of criticism/thoughts on what you guys actually want, though I'm always glad you guys are giving your thoughts. I'd like to think most of you know, Fawely and I are people who enjoy criticism, allowing us to improve our creations. There's just something about all this survival stuff that doesn't seem helpful AT ALL.

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I appreciate all the work you put into it, and I am in no way disrespecting that.

The buildings outside spawn protection - Brilliant, really add some character. However, as you said, all the colour is below ground - But, if your underground, you can't be watching diamonds that might leave spawn and you want to kill etc. Don't get me wrong, under spawn, especially the 4 areas are awesome, really nice, but its under spawn.

Its not about lighting, thats not the problem. Its simply that above spawn, 90% of the blocks are brown, or grey. Also the portal - 2 Ways to get to it, either ender pearl (very hard shot to make + you need to actually have a pearl in the first place), or climb the stairs that you get to from one of the bottom areas - Finding that bottom area + stairs is near impossible for new players. As far as they know, there is no staircase.

Also, while its slightly off topic - The spawn thing I agree with the rest. Its always been South, for 3 years, and it now being North is really annoying. You keep finding yourself on the wrong side.

 

Needs more tracker

 

You have to play Survival PvP to understand where we're all coming from. We want to go to spawn to chill and hang out and pvp if we see someone in full diamond jump out. The nether portal location is terrible that's just it. I don't want a challenge to get up to the nether portal every time I want to go and raid someone and travel by nether. I've lost 67 levels from messing up my ender pearl. The 1.8 spawn has a great nether portal location, can't easily escape someone if you're running from people you're fighting since it's on a little hill type thing, but you can easily get there if you're just trying to get to the nether from spawn. The spawn is just so dark up top, I don't even go to spawn to hang out since there's no area to just afk if you want to and view the people jumping out to pvp. The sponges on the 1.8 spawn were great since you got to jump around and navigate through spawn with them a bit. The underground is where all the interesting stuff is, but it's spawn and do I really want to go all the way underground to see a pig spawner? I want to stay up top and see the interesting stuff there. There's no way someone's going to pvp undergound, not with the player base we have now, we want it to be like the past spawns where we're use to going South right outside of spawn if we want to see some pvp going on almost always. You'll always see someone South, it's just the go to place. The south thing is just a Survival PvP player thing, you'd have to play to know where we're coming from. The above needs much more color, the blocks you used are too dark, and there's just no good place to be when you want to afk or just stay at spawn and watch people jump, as I stated above. Listen to some of our suggestion, after all we are the players, we are the one's that see this spawn and have been playing Survival PvP for months.

 

That's disrespectful towards me when we both know I'm the only old player on Raid that still plays. lost respect for you.

I don't think I've given my personal opinion on the current spawn. It's garbage, It doesn't even have a Brawl theme to it whatsoever, Not only does it have horrible lighting and horrible color selection, But the underground parkour and chinese theme itself is horrible.

Sorry @LegalSkateboards but the "Converged spawn" Is also in my opinion.. garbage, It looks like a bunch of wasted space, I too can build 1 corner of a spawn and paste the other 3 sides, You gave it no imagination and it looks WAY too similar to the 1.7 original sPvP map which @0racle said it looked too similar to the kitmap so it will not be chosen.

Sorry if I hurt any of your feelings with my constructive criticism, That was my opinion and you both can hate me for it if you want, Or you can appreciate my honesty

 

Guys screenshot this, Frost giving honest feedback
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edit: jk ily @FrostByte dont kill me irl please end my miserable life

 

Bruh no one cares about how long you played brawl, stop getting butthurt every time some one says something about real ogs and doesnt include you, even when they are probably talking about the players who were there longer than you or that werent a noob at the time you were a noob.

im the real og i play brawl since 1999bc . im og everyy one look at me im og. no one knows as much as me causse no 1 else is og like me. i play evry day cus im og. y'all noobs better get on my lvl b4 talkin to an og like me!.!.!

 

Are you referring to all of the open terrain or just being a 'constructive citric'?

Didn't you just recently copy and paste the old 1.7 map from my world while I showed you the features /rotate /paste to fix the underside of the spawn? It's the same thing.

You're still (or at least were) pushing for the old 1.7 map to be reused so isn't that hypocritical to use for criticism yourself? I had no intentions on it being creative; everyone wanted the old 1.7 style integrated into it.

Also Andy got a large amount of Survival players together to help him decide on what worked and what didn't. If you remember a mass majority of the older players, they'd all wanted the features you oppose to be implemented. Calling it garbage? Seems like anger.

 

Not sure where you're getting this "I need to play it to understand". I've played more survival than most. This south thing, is only because south was the forward facing direction. The new facing direction is North. Excuse me, but with this logic - wouldn't North then be the new go to direction or are we all just going to be stubborn about change. Not sure what else I can say about the rest, except I'll work with Fawely with fixing a few things.

I appreciate your thoughts. Thank you c:

Thank you for your thoughts. c:

 

TBH you are just being a hypocritical ********, but that is just my constructive criticism for you. I don't care if you dislike me for my blunt views but I hope you appreciate my honesty

 

You've played more survival than most or have you played more survival pvp than most? You have to play Survival PvP to understand where we're coming from. We're the one's that pvp, we grind, we raid, we travel, and this is what we want. I think if anything you're the stubborn because we don't like your spawn and you can't accept that. Unless you played during 1.7 than I know you haven't played survival pvp much if at all, and if you did play during 1.7 then things have changed since then. If you haven't played at all then you wouldn't understand why we feel the way we do. I don't see why the south thing causes you so much trouble, it's what we (the players) want, we've grown use to facing south and going there to chill or pvp. Thank you for listening and replying.

 

I don't dislike anyone. I respect and appreciate your honesty.

1. Actually I'm not trying to hurt anyones feelings I'm just stating my opinon, I'm referring to the open terrain.

2. The only thing I copied and pasted was your spawn onto my world so I could fix the mess ups and hopefully be able to help out so that's kind of disrespectful throwing it up in my face when all I was trying to do was help.

3. I pushed for the old spawn to be used the first day of the poll because @0racle did not explain why we weren't using it, After he explained that it looks to similar to the kitbrawl spawn I see his point and I think it would be a great idea to use the spawn he recently picked.

Sorry if I came off rude in any way I was just stating my opinion as everyone else was.

Edit : @Lord_Roke Since the map was already picked you can go ahead if you want and lock this thread for there is no use for it anymore.

 

This Thread.

InB4DaLock.

 

Rude? No. Constructive? Extremely.

 

"You've played more survival than most or have you played more survival pvp than most?" - Nit-picking my sentence when this thread is about one thing, our survival pvp. I'd be considered stubborn if I'm not willing to change these things. I've stated quite the opposite. I'm very willing to fix the problems that I can. The south thing causes me no trouble at all. I have no control over that, as I'm not able to switch that. When the new spawn went up players actually faced "S", but was really North and got just as much of an ear full then as I am now about how it needed to be fixed. <3

Maybe I should've been more clear with my thoughts, but in no way am I upset. I've mentioned all the time that I greatly appreciate any all thoughts - constructive criticism.

c:

 

I meant what I said when I stated you'd had to have played Survival PvP to understand. I was just getting what you meant clearer in my head since you stated you've played more survival than most. You clearly haven't played Survival PvP to know where we're coming from, and I have no idea why you would bring up survival experience when survival pvp is a thing on its own, more of a raid server than just survival. I am in no way trying to come off as rude in anyway, just giving you some feedback on what I personally feel are the biggest issues with spawn. Back to the south thing. I see what you mean, it was originally intended to make players face "S" but you made a simple mistake, as any human would, and put the S going North. Correct?

I greatly appreciate you listening to us and replying to all of our feedback. I've stated all of my problems with the current spawn, which I think were also the majority of the players issues with it. This is simply constructive cristism, you're an amazing builder and I know you'll just learn from this.

 

"You've played more survival than most or have you played more survival pvp than most? - Nit-picking my sentence when this thread is about one thing, our survival pvp."

When I said survival, I meant survival pvp. This thread is about that, no? I thought simply just saying survival would've been enough. That's why I mention that you nit-picked my sentence, almost as if you're looking for something to throw me down a peg or two. I also don't find you to be rude, though I'm a bit thrown back at how easily my words seem to go unread or misinterpreted perhaps. I believe the spawn was put in facing a wrong direction, which put players facing South - looking at "N" or vice versa. It was then fixed. Please keep in mind just because I keep mentioning the direction does not mean I have a problem with it. It's not that you've said I have a problem, I'm just making sure that stays clear.
My only control over direction is talking to an admin who has access to change it in code. I wonder if anyone would mention it if the floating direction letters were non-existent. I feel everyone would simply just run forward like they always did and hang out at the edge of that direction. Perhaps I also feel like it'd be how you explain it. I can understand. c:

Not that I could even begin to explain myself well enough with these next thoughts, but I've received way too many mixed comments from the same people along with others to even begin to do this supposed learning from all this. You want color, but old spawns had none(less). You want a place to chill, yet the newest spawn has the most space and more to offer than any old spawn. Please understand it sounds a lot like this, when reading over all this criticism. This is the last time I'm writing in this thread.

You already know I'm more than willing to fix these things(if it actually needs fixing). I kept replying to all this because it seems I couldn't express myself to the best of my ability to get my point across to all of you or that you simply want to find something wrong with anything I say, just to do it. I've never had a problem, been here since day one on survival pvp and will be here till the end. Always putting the most into everything I do for this server.

I'm already planning a new/reworked spawn. Most likely a Winter Holiday/Christmas version and possibly a new version of the current one - along with taking the old spawns and figuring something out with those. No limits on possibilities.

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