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Why is Screensharing invasive?

Discussion in 'KitBrawl' started by Touchie, Apr 8, 2017.

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  1. Touchie

    Touchie Active Member

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    Seriously, You either need get a better anti cheat. Or start screensharing. Hackers are taking over brawl. I used a macro on brawl and i was clicking around 40 cps with it and i still wasn't banned by the anti cheat. the only people that seem to be banned are bhoppers and people that use kill aura. But the people that use ExtendedReach don't seem to get banned unless someone records them in game and gets them banned, So right now, I think admins should be thinking about getting a new anti - cheat, I think a new anti cheat could make things a lot better. Even people that aren't even hacking get banned for 12 hours to hacking. That's the main issue admins should be working on atm. I'm just saying that a new anti cheat would be great for the community. But screensharing isn't invasive.

    Like i did, ya know :33 xD
     
  2. Carnotauros

    Carnotauros Raid & Events Manager

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    The AntiCheat is not the problem, all the retarded people who hack is.
     
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  3. SharkBaitBooHaha

    SharkBaitBooHaha Well-Known Member

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    Screensharing is invasive... and if people were using ghost clients screensharing wouldn't do anything... Especially if we do enforce screenshare it won't do anything because the main task of ghost client coders is to make in undetectable in all situations. Half our mods didn't sign up to ss, and if they did they still wouldn't be able to catch the ghost-clients
     
  4. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    We should indeed be able to, but keep in mind that when a staff member resigns, they're no longer required to be all mature. We've seen even SMods do scummy things out of pure salt when they resign.
     
  5. Sn4x5

    Sn4x5 Ex WarZ Mod

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    We are not going on the Desktop. If you open up the .minecraft you fullscreen it to prevent that
     
  6. Yoshi

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    There are systems in place to tell if you are cheating or manipulation your gamefiles in different ways that don't require the manual labor of checking your .minecraft folder (which can be easily hidden anyway, by the way).

    I've made this point before a long time ago, and I still stand by it today, none the less you may think it's "intrusive" or not, everyone will think differently, doesn't make them innocent or guilty in that matter.

    I personally will never subject myself to a 'screensharing' process.
    No Minecraft server is worth my privacy and security.

    Just to further hinder any regulation of a screensharing process, here's how to easily hide anything you don't want someone to see on Windows 10:

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    To see the hidden folders, a staff member would need to edit your PC's settings to reveal all hidden documents using the 'hidden' attribute tag. They are now editing your security preferences by doing this, does that seem worth it to you? Cause' it's not worth it for me.
     
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  7. ekali

    ekali Bannēd for DoX

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    Both are the problem imo :sorry:

    also people just follow daddy PhaseClan and hide their big bang cheats like he does
    and they never get banned, cause nobody knows how to find anything the right way :woot::woot:
     
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  8. Squidward

    Squidward BEST WARZ SMOD NO KAPPA (ง'̀-'́)ง

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    Lol seem's you been out for a long while. Just a tip, don't click 40 cps on Brawl again, you'll get caught :wink:
     
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  9. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    Just gonna add that it really depends on why the person is getting SS'ed.
    If it was a single BAC alert, then careful treafing is needed - if our friend Tempzide here gets reach and aimbot alerts, you know what to look for.
     
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  10. Sayan

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    In every screenshare, mods have you click a little button to show hidden folders. That has nothing to do with the security of your computer. You can click the button again after the SS if you want to. There's no reason to have hidden files on your computer unless your trying to hide some cheats. You have no idea what your talking about.
     
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  11. Carnotauros

    Carnotauros Raid & Events Manager

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    there is actually a reason why some files are hidden. Some files are hidden by default because you can damage softwares if you mess around with those folders. It can be important softwares like antivirus and you accidentally destroy the protection by deleting/moving the folder/things in the folder without your knowledge.
     
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  12. Miskey

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    The biggest problem with screensharing imo is that we'd have to teach specific mods how to do it, because giving everyone the power to freeze a player and make them screenshare whenever they want is honestly stupid.

    A screenshare that is administered correctly should not be invasive (unless you keep your 4chan images in your .minecraft). The average gc user won't know how to hide everything correctly, so a SS policy will definitely increase our accuracy.

    There are exceptions to every rule of course. Everyone with a client on their computer doesn't hack on brawl. I personally use clients on private server to help me learn what to look for with certain hacks such as aim assist & auto strafe. There'd be time for a player to explain stuff like that throughout the screenshare process, and they'd be able to communicate with the staff member throughout the process using something such as join.me so they don't have to give out their Skype.
     
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  13. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    This would mean that anyone who gets screenshared could simply say that they use the hack on a private server to test for hacks, and say that they're staff on some random server and get away with it. If a SS protocol is put in place, we need to have the posession of a hacked client in the .minecraft folder bannable, or else it will be too easy to find loopholes.
     
  14. Miskey

    Miskey Leader of Annihilation | Former Media Manager

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    If the hacked client has to be in the .Minecraft folder you're not going to catch anyone who has any idea at all how to use a gc.
     
  15. Yoshi

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    The files that are hidden are hidden for a reason to keep people from idiotically deleting important windows folders. It's also still a direct violation of privacy.

    You see everyone outraged about the FCC roleback which allows your ISPs sell your internet history to advertisers?
    It's not that people have something to hide like you try to play off here, it's because people want to keep their privacy.

    Also, I do know what I'm talking about, I've hosted and maintained my own servers and services for the past 3 years.
     
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  16. EmperorTrump45

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    What this title's really asking: "Is sharing information and files on your computer with strangers on the internet invasive?" No **** it is
    There's a reason to have hidden files if you don't want random people seeing your personal ****, which is a thing I'm pretty sure most people could identify with
     
  17. ekali

    ekali Bannēd for DoX

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    oh my god it isnt hard to find hacks just hire me and all teach all of you in about 5 minutes and 12 and a half seconds
     
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  18. Miskey

    Miskey Leader of Annihilation | Former Media Manager

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    Yeah I know. I've screenshared before, and know how to do it, but letting every single staff member have the option to do it would be a terrible idea imo.
     
  19. Touchie

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    It's not just hacked client you're looking for, The person you are going to SS could have illegal mods or a auto clicker or a macro, There is also a way to check and see what the person launched recently on their pc, So say they launched Vape client, It would show up on this list showing their recent opened stuff, And usually if you check someones prefetch, And tell them to type in vape, It will show a vape.pf file which means they launched vape. But usually when you freeze them, They can just self distruct, But on some other servers. When a staff member freezes you, You get frozen and your inventory stays open and you can't close it. This is useful to catch hackers that use a gui on their game. I'm not sure if you can delete the vape.pf files when you have vape active, I think you need to self distruct first then you can delete the pf files. I'm not experienced at SSing, But i know some info about it.
     
  20. SharkBaitBooHaha

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    You're bound to see the desktop and all that other jazz with a screenshare... And personally I don't even think screensharing is dumb because it's invasive, more of that it doesn't work, and there's no cause when half the gamemodes on brawl don't even require actual pvp skills, to be good
     
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