Why is Screensharing invasive?

Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm certain that most ghost clients have a self destruct option from in game itself, removing any evidence of ever using the client in the first place and leaving no trace in the system. Most likely staff will be wasting their time in vain trying to find evidence of a person using a client when there is none. Also if a player is given 3 minutes to close programs they do not wish the staff to see they can also clear their chrome history/delete any evidence of going on a client website such as vape.gg

And besides, It's pretty pointless to get a screenshare system in effect in a mediocre pvp server which rarely comes across players who use undetectable clients, as the latter can be very obvious since 95% of players don't match or reach similar skill levels of a user with a client

 

It always leaves a trace if you self destruct something. Also it's not only because of ghostclients. It's about Xrayers and so on.

 

Depends how well you are at finding that trace, and usually involves further invasion of privacy and tampering with personal files.

 

Not necessarily. If you're just checking for X-Ray It's easy to check or other Clients in general. The only thing I'd struggle with is SS's on a mac tbh cause Mac's are eh weird imo.
You'd have to check for lemote file on Teamspeak or the Mods if you check for a ghostclients since almost all of them run via Forge.

 

Actually, There is a way to freeze someone and force their inventory open and they can't close their inventory. So they can't really press the self destruct button. But in the new vape lite client, I think you only have to run a bat or click a button on a desktop gui. I don't know but i've saw some servers do this, When they freeze the victim, His inventory gets forced open and it gets stuck until he his unfrozen.

 

Either screensharing becomes ineffective, or it becomes invasive. The arguments I see essentially boil down to: And to counter [insert item here] you have to have the player do [insert new task]. This is such a waste of time for legitimate players to have to deal with, and is invasive to a certain degree. There is also the issue of younger players who cannot install random programs/talk to moderators in voice because they do not own their computer.

This is what I'm talking about. Yeah and if they still stay the same skill force them to ship their computer hard drive to you just to be sure!

 

And the desktop ****? Lemme give you some examples

-A word document that a specific class needs
-Stored pictures on a folder, (sure as hell won't be opened. But it does give previews
-dumbass pictures
-bootleg ass games/apps
-viruses
-account info
-paypal
-itunes **** if you have it opened

But you could argue "why would staff use that information"? They won't but they sure as hell will get a scewed mindset of a specific person, that are apart of the same community. And it's not easy to find to a ghost client without seeing the desktop.

Some staff teams even have to ask you "do you have a vape.gg account" and it's an automatic ban.

Also, if they do get screenshared what determines if you're using the client you find in their mods folder, or desktop

 

I like the background. Mind giving me the link of the picture?

 

When it comes down to forcing the player to-not display his desktop icons, download an ss tool, have it run for a while, go through there whole entire pc, and have a slight chance of finding something (because let's be honest, not everyone hacks to be good at their gamemode) is it worth it? Y'know on a server where you don't have to hack to be good at the gamemode. I don't think it's worth it at all

 

Are we forgetting that some people may not have teamspeak here too

 

They could easily have a message in the chat when a player joins informing them they may need TeamSpeak in the case of a screenshare happening towards them if a staff member thinks they are hacking. There is also Discord which can be used to speak to them or a different messaging platform that doesn't have VoiceTalk due to them being able to type the directions on where the person needs to go in their screenshare. The player usually when frozen is given 5 minutes in which can be used to get TeamSpeak and if you message the person in the game that it might take you a tiny bit longer I'm sure they'll give you some more time if this were ever to be allowed.

 

But not everyone is allowed ts, for example @TheTitaniumTitan (unless he gets staff, huge +1 btw buddy)

 

As I said there are other ways such as Discord and typing to direct the user when they have join.me downloaded.

 

I dont know what join.me is but OK

 

Idk why it's evasive.

 

But surely joining brawl you agree not to hack and hacking goes against this meaning you have broken a rule which could mean you are entitled to have to screenshare. you could make a thing where you have to accept that you can be screenshared at any point when you first join the server similar to a T&C when you purchase something.

 

Screen Sharing should be allowed I for one have nothing to hide and don't really care if a staff sees my desktop or whatever is on my screen. If it is private then don't have it open. Ghost clients and inject clients can be annoying to find and macros / auto clickers. But there are very simple ways to find them and if you need help to find them look it up on some youtubers channel and check on hacker videos to see what they do to hide them. Also ask them to turn on hidden files since it does not invade anything all you are going through is files for a a minecraft client. Typically people who cheat on brawl are obvious and those who aren't still show it quite a bit when they toggle or if it is accidental. Still I do agree that screen sharing should be allowed. Give them a small amount of time to join teamspeak or whatever you want to use to have talk. ( In some cases they don't have a mic also ) Have them open their join.me and start the SS.