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Discussion in 'Wild West' started by Antisocial_Kid, Apr 17, 2017.

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do u think joker should come back?

  1. yes

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  2. no

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  3. maybe

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  1. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    Yes, an effort to kill it. The amount of times I've seen him threaten to "kill" Wild West by threatening to make his team leave.
    We're not required to give proof to banned players. Especially when the player banned threatened to DDoS staff members involved in his ban. There's a reason on WarZ that staff members did not like that players could see them online even when they were in /poof, because sometimes not staying anonymous on your bans can be an easy way to get yourself DDoS'd.

    And, considering this:
    Its not worth the risk for staff members involved to possibly get DDoS'd considering how easy it is to assume he is indeed using tracers. Perhaps, if he wasn't constantly toxic, didn't threaten to DDoS staff members involved and didn't have a pst of trying to get the IPs of people, maybe we might be a little less insistent about keeping the evidence private. I'm sorry, but us not giving Joker the proof of his ban is no reason for him to get mad - he has brought all of it upon himself.

    Onto whether or not I think he should be unbanned or not. There are 4 things we are supposed to consider when dealing with appeals:
    • How long ago the ban was. Permbans (when you cannot buy an unban and all alts are banned too) are very rarely lifted until 6 months have passed since the player stopped breaking any rules. So, 6 months can be a minimum.
    • How often the player broke the rules in the past. Prior to his final ban, he has had a ban for continuous rules violations and another one for tracers, both of which were valid bans. As well as this, he has received a huge amount of mutes. Joker's history of rule-breaking is not in his favour.
    • Why the player was banned. As it was just hacking, and not DDoSing or stealing assets, this won't set Joker back with getting unbanned.
    • How much effort the user has put in an appeal. As he has not appealed recently, obviously I can't judge on this.
    So, 6 months is the minimum for Joker to get unbanned, unless his ban was proven to be invalid (which is incredibly unlikely at this point). Taking into consideration how much he broke rules before this, and the fact that he has shown no signs of maturing and still acts toxic in the Brawl discord now, it is perfectly valid to say that Joker should have to wait more than 6 months to get unbanned.

    Personally, I think he should have to wait about 8 months to get unbanned. 6 months is the minimum that everyone has to go through if you get permbanned, and an extra 2 months due to his constant rule-breaking in the past. This is going off of facts about Joker - why he was banned, his ban/mute history, and according to protocol. As always, I have tried not to be bias in this situation.
     
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  2. MrSwat_

    MrSwat_ War 2.0 GSGer, Team Sync Wild West, and Ex-Sheriff

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    I'd do 9 months because of how he acts on discord.
     
  3. Trogy

    Trogy Huncho

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    Yeah. But when I say hacking, I mean really hacking. He would literally fly around with forcefield on, and use no slowdown so that he could drink potions while sprinting.
     
  4. percnowitizki

    percnowitizki Well-Known Member

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    Do you actually have proof? If so I would like to see some.
     
  5. Trogy

    Trogy Huncho

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    Why are you so in denial of the fact that Joker hacked? He has literally admitted to it.
    I will sift through my recordings after school, but chances are that I have deleted it.
     
  6. percnowitizki

    percnowitizki Well-Known Member

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    Your argument isn't strong. Your just saying, "oh yeah i have recordings of him hacking." I ask you for evidence and your asking me why i'm denying why he hacked? It's like going to court and the judge accepting a claim without any evidence....... Seriously?
     
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  7. MrSwat_

    MrSwat_ War 2.0 GSGer, Team Sync Wild West, and Ex-Sheriff

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    O phew then he didn't hack THAT bad when I was on @TheTrogs

    I don't record so I don't have proof tbh.
     
  8. percnowitizki

    percnowitizki Well-Known Member

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    My point was to @TheTrogs not you.
     
  9. MrSwat_

    MrSwat_ War 2.0 GSGer, Team Sync Wild West, and Ex-Sheriff

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    Well I have the same point as him so it goes for both of us.
     
  10. percnowitizki

    percnowitizki Well-Known Member

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    Do you at least have a screenshot of Joker hacking or no?
     
  11. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ayo why you lookin

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    MULTIPLE people probably have evidence of him hacking, including but of limited to TheTrogs. He has nothing to benefit from personally by keeping iMingo banned.

    Try his ban history at https://www.brawl.com/history/player/iMingo. Even though he may not have hacked from your perspective, his mute history alone was enough.

    This thread is utterly pointless, and designed to cause flame and/or prove a false point. It would probably be a good thing to have it locked at this point and everyone moves on.
     
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  12. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    joker_is_salty_as_shit.png ddos_threats_much.png

    This definitely isn't a DDoS threat

    @Glock_Fanatic
     
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  13. percnowitizki

    percnowitizki Well-Known Member

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  14. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    The whole reason why the "evidence" for Joker's ban hasn't been released is directly related to him making DDoS threats, both before and after his ban.
     
  15. percnowitizki

    percnowitizki Well-Known Member

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    Ok.
     
  16. MrDasky

    MrDasky Veteran

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    I love how you guys argue whether he hacked or not - it doesn't matter anymore. What matters are those 60+ offences. Why would we want a player with such a terrible attitude back? If he so reaaaallly wants to get back to Wild West he should stop behaving offensively, and prove that he has changed for all of us. Has he done that yet? I think not.
     
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  17. Champloo

    Champloo Guest

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    Yeah.. I think its time to lock this.
     
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  18. ekali

    ekali Bannēd for DoX

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    You know, when people get banned for hacking I think they actually were
     
  19. percnowitizki

    percnowitizki Well-Known Member

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    Ptffff. There have been plenty of false bans for "hacking"
     
  20. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ayo why you lookin

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    Yet this person has been banned thrice for hacking...
     
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