Religion Debates and Discussions

I wouldn't call them blind followers because they don't follow anything in particular XD

And I was generally just curious because Atheism is heavily in the minority when it comes to the world population. Oh, and I don't disbelieve in Evolution. I think it is a possibility.

 

are people really reporting my posts and having them deleted



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If > 1/7 of the planet counts as "heavy minority," then sure.
If we're taking into account the actual numbers of religions across the world, Atheism ranks at #3, behind Christianity and Islam. And if we're taking into account the rates at which the groups are changing, Christianity is on the decline in the U.S, and atheism is on the rise.

Using the definition of follow, that's entirely false.
Here's a list of things most atheists follow

• Science
• Logic
• Reasoning
• Evidence
• Happiness
• Purpose
• Passion
• Careers
• Family
• Friends
• Society
• The government

etc.
Not to say that Christians don't follow things like happiness or purpose, I'm just clarifying that "follow," in this context, has nothing to do with beliefs.

Evolution really shouldn't be something one can think is only a possibility, in my opinion. It's a scientific theory, which means, and I quote from Wikipedia, "an explanation of some aspect of the natural world that can, in accordance with the scientific method be repeatedly tested, using a predefined protocol of observations and experiments.Established scientific theories have withstood rigorous scrutiny and are a comprehensive form of scientific knowledge."
If you don't trust Wikipedia as a source, here's another definition from the dictionary
"A coherent group of propositions formulated to explain a group of facts or phenomena in the natural world and repeatedly confirmed through experiment or observation." -dictionary.com

I tried to find more, but most dictionaries didn't include a definition for a scientific theory, only the definition that's most common.

Here's a list of other things that are "only theories"

• Gravity
• General/special relativity
• The Laws of motion
• The Doppler effect
• Heisenberg's uncertainty principle
• Kepler's laws
• All those universal constants you were talking about earlier

... and more

If you have reason to believe that evolution isn't the way the world works, I'm sure there are lots of biologists ready to hear your counter-hypothesis, and many who would be glad to provide reasons that evolution is a more hardy hypothesis, or to experiment and research your hypothesis if they think it's viable.

 

I understand what you are saying (partly)
Are you trying to say that this universe is too perfect to not be created by a divine being? Have you heard of string theory? It indicates that the universe is a bubble. It also says that the universe has been birthed and died off many times before. Maybe supposedly it managed to stumble on the "perfect" laws of physics for life to form?



How did scientists test those values exactly? Was it through a controlled environment, or throughout equations derived from the laws of physics that determines the stars would burn a lot faster? This part is just for my curiosity. Don't mind me.

Finally glad to talk with a more logical thinker btw.

1. There you go. You're using hell as a method of persuasion. So basicslly, in order to persuade us that God is real, you're saying that we need to believe he is real to see he is real? What about you, as a Christian, have you seen
or felt God? Use science please.

 

If no scientific explanation can be reached, the alternative would be to provide a repeatable way to feel God, or a position people are in when they feel God.
My understanding is that when people say they feel God, they really mean that they feel lucky to be in the position they're in (after surviving a car crash/fire, after getting a big break in their job, or after coming out of hard times). If this is the case, then it can be explained by the feeling being a complex emotion that people find hard to express.

 

+1 I agree

 

Advancing the human cause for what?

 

"Atheistic religion" is an oxymoron, to be clear.
Either way, from what I've heard, Satanism isn't really half the terrible thing it's cracked up to be. I agree with you. There are a lot of things that Satanists hold fundamental that are really agreeable.
I haven't done research, so I can't say for sure, but those are my thoughts at a glance.

 

OK; @Gehenna_Beam

We have ALREADY been over this; but you cannot claim that god is omnipotent, omnicient, and infintely good, while SIMULTANEOUSLY claiming that God doesn't send the people he created to the hell he created because of the sins he created, they send themselves.

it's like saying; you created the torture device, love the person you're torturing, and have the ability to not torture them... all they have to do is love you forever and be absolutely sorry about everything they've done, because if they don't love you and repent for anything they've ever done... it's their fault you're torturing them.

That logic is phychopathic at best.

You know someone's going to be raped, can stop the rape, and love the person going to be raped. But because they didn't say sorry for eating shellfish or something stupid, you not stepping in to save the victim is the victim getting themselves raped.

God can do anything. God does not avert ETERNAL TORTURE (the nature of eternity means that one person suffering forever is going to be eternally worse than all combined human suffering, since it never ends). God knowingly allows people to go to hell despite being able to stop it easily.

Ergo, your God is psychotic.

 

I'd say this is pretty accurate. From the research I did just now, it seems like it has a strong focus on material desires. It's worth noting that some Satanists don't see the Devil as a literal thing, just as an archetype of "pride, carnality, and enlightenment." Materialistic, and thus subject to dissent, obviously, but not all in all as bad as people want it to seem.

This argument is...
extreme, at best.
While the fundamental points it's making are pretty valid, it's never a good idea to go that far with something when making analogies, as a rule of thumb. If you're trying to have a debate, don't go that far if you want to seem reasonable and agreeable.
While I agree with your philosophy, I do not agree with this post in particular.
Secondly, God isn't supposed to be omnipotent, as far as I can tell. As much flaw as I find in the "love me or suffer" system, I don't think it's exactly the point to prod.

 

For the exact same reason I didn't like the other post, I don't like this either. If you want to seem like you're having a debate, as opposed to hurling insults for fun, I'd advise against things like this. Whether or not you meant it in a harmful way, saying "people like you" really implies the worst. Especially when it's crammed in with "violence, hate, disease, pain, and disasters."

I'm all for this thread existing, so please keep it civil so nobody deletes it.

 

Good to know. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

 

How do I like posts in off-topic? :v

 

a religion of no religion isnt a religion, please read your words to yourself before saying stupid ****. you are a walking example of "think before you speak"