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Zombie Nerf 7/13/17

Discussion in 'MC-WarZ' started by Signatured, Jul 13, 2017.

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Do you like the new zombies?

  1. Yes

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    64.5%
  2. No (Please explain why)

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    35.5%
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  1. Sn4x5

    Sn4x5 Ex WarZ Mod

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    They are still the same in higher zones tho
     
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  2. Usp45

    Usp45 Well-Known Member

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    there are like, 2 people liking your comments lol

    how is the pve gamemode supposed to make any money?

    by the way, you are extremely passive aggressive
     
  3. bob8is8cool

    bob8is8cool Well-Known Member

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    The same way all servers make money? Donations
     
  4. Usp45

    Usp45 Well-Known Member

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    what specifically will be altered when people donate
     
  5. MR_naenae_1738

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    your arguments make no sense lol

    "WE HAVE TO JOIN TOGETHER AND TAKE BACK OUR LAND FROM THE ZOMBIES!"

    warz is a pvp server. not a survival server.

    also "removing combos" is a joke. do you remember when the p90 came out and everyone was complaining because it was sprayed to death?
    EVERYONE complained...
    NO ONE liked it...
    then the p90 was NERFED...

    bringing back COMBOING....

    and then the MOST POPULAR TIME OF WARZ came...
     
  6. bob8is8cool

    bob8is8cool Well-Known Member

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    You haven't read this entire thread. Your reply is invalid.
     
  7. Paul

    Paul Well-Known Member

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    the level of hypocrisy LMAO
     
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  8. MR_naenae_1738

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    no, i have. i didnt reply to most of it because reading your replies, you are giving the same argument over and over.

    also:
    partially true but its not the only reason. people enjoyed it for the unique pvp aspects that it brought.

    yea, because whitenames are new and donors are experienced, it's how "skill" works

    little contradictory.


    even when i was starting out and a whitename, i didn't go out and think "oh boy, i can't wait to go shoot some zombies with my mp5."

    sorry if this comes out as rude; but your ideas just wont work for the current population of warz. they MAY work, and IF they did, it would be good, but that's a BIG if and it's not worth the gamble right now.
     
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  9. bob8is8cool

    bob8is8cool Well-Known Member

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    How ignorant are you? I AM NOT TRYING TO MAKE WARZ ABOUT FIGHTING ZOMBIES. If WarZ wants to ever thrive again, something besides constant PVP will have to be added so new players will be able to enjoy the game, such as base building. Otherwise they will continue to get killed and such.
     
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  10. MR_naenae_1738

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    that is what you believe will work. and it may work. but it is not worth the risk at the moment. im not ignorant. you are cherry picking your arguments. you ignored everything else i said in that post because i was right about it and you are trying to prove yourself right in any way possible so you don't look like the real stubborn child that you are.
     
  11. BeastyBoo

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    Just a qoute I enjoy and helps me rethink everything I do when im struggeling or something like that.
     
  12. bob8is8cool

    bob8is8cool Well-Known Member

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    If you actually read you'll see I thoroughly replied to all of JayOG and Mario's posts. I ignored parts of yours because they were already addressed or similarly posted. You come on here and obviously don't read the thread but somehow assume I am a stubborn child. Ok...
     
  13. Usp45

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    there were a lot of parts in edins response that you didnt address in your response or in any of your previous responses
     
  14. bob8is8cool

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    You are so petty it is hilarious...

    What am I supposed to say to this? It's not my fault that people, similar to edin, kept saying the same things so I had to keep restating things.

    Again, what am I supposed to say? He partially agreed with what I said then added in a pretty obvious statement. Obviously people played WarZ for it's unique PvP. However that doesn't mean they all donated. Most people back in the day that donated were hackers. So new people that came for the unique PvP would get active, realize everyone else was hacking, and then would do the same and donate. You should know based off who you teamed with.


    Literally agreeing with what I said. Whitenames are new and donors are experienced. This means donors have more skill. Now on top of that they also get unfair TPs and Echests. You proved my point, so thank you.

    Nothing was contradictory... Learn the word.

    This was probably my most pointless post of all 2,270 of them. I hope you're happy that I cleared things up for you @Usp45
     
  15. Usp45

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    ??????????

    this is blatantly false lol
     
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  16. MR_naenae_1738

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    1. Yes, i am agreeing with what you said, and i'm telling you that your argument makes no sense as there is absolutely nothing you can do to change that...TP's for whitenames would not make them more skilled than donors.

    2. I'm basing my claims off of the fact the server population decreased substantially over 2 years. I believe it's due to a lack of updates and people getting bored of PVP

    yes. that is contradictory.
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    3. you're assuming i didn't read any of the thread while i did. I did not assume you were a stubborn child, you are a stubborn child because you can't handle things not going the way you want them to. to every one of jayog's posts, you replied with, in essence, the same thing.
    and when i said you were cherry picking your arguments, i didn't say you were cherry picking your replies. there are plenty of instances in which you blatantly ignored what someone said that proved you wrong so you could argue about saying pve and equal tp's for everyone would save warz.

    go mow a lawn. its summer. you'll get $20 and can buy a rank. a white name can go mow a lawn for $20 if he truly wants mvp. if a white name doesn't want to do that they most likely don't have the dedication to play anyways.

    this server is dead anyways. there is little hope for bringing it back. enjoy the times that it lasted.
     
  17. patrickdemooij9

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    Can you guys please take this conversation to an actual conversation instead of spamming this thread with it? If you want to flame each other, please do so in a conversation. You can discuss the change of the zombies here and give some constructive feedback on the change. Like why you think it should be reverted with arguments and stuff.

    Myself, I think we have to see how it turns out. It is never bad to try something out for a few weeks and then see how the feedback is.
     
  18. bob8is8cool

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    You have to be kidding me. Everyone hacked back in the day when the server was popular.

    It's not about making them more skilled, it's about making them more equal. I've had plenty of people message me in game that say "Hey I saw you on the forums. Thank you for standing up for whitenames." They don't care about skill, they care about equality which can then lead to skill.

    "A combination of statements that are opposed to one another." You highlighted two words that are completely opposite and automatically assume that my entire statement is contradictory? You've got to be kidding me right?

    There is a problem with WarZ; the population has been declining over the years. This is an indisputable fact. My hypothesis for why this has happened is based on the fact that new players leave. As Mario said, there are at least 700 unique players, but you never see that in game. That means some people quit shortly after joining, probably due to the server being incredibly PVP with donors having a major advantage.

    I am simplify providing my hypothesis for why the server is decreasing. That is no contradiction at all. You can't dispute my claim, much like you say in your next quote about me, so you simply call it a contraciction.

    I literally got my wisdom teeth out the day prior to all of those postings. I was checking the forums in between throwing up and taking naps. I'm sorry I did not perfectly diagnose and address every single part of every single message like you wanted. If you would like to, you can provide examples of those certain items I missed and I will be happy to tell you how I feel about them.

    Again, you are simply admitting defeat with this statement. My answer to stopping P2W is providing alternate motives in gameplay to non donors or alternate incentives to donors. Your solution is to pay the money I shouldn't have to pay.

    What you don't understand is that not everyone spends tons of money on WarZ. Some people simply can't so that, but the majority of whitenames just don't want to. We all bought Minecraft at one point. We all agreed to the EULA. Brawl is forcing whitenames to pay money to get all the perks of their game, when we have already paid for Minecraft and shouldn't have to. It's not fair. There is no arguing wether or not Brawl's donations are fair because they are literally breaking the law and violating the EULA. Again, that is not fair.

    Thank you for again proving my point.

    "This server is dead anyways."

    I agree. And I'm doing something. Instead of you complaining about it, maybe try offering alternate solutions and not calling me a stubborn child. I've had plenty of whitenames and staff members messaging me in game, saying that they either support me or don't want to take sides but admire that I'm trying to make changes for the better. It doesn't hurt to try, so you should quit being a stubborn child and attempt to save the server before it dies and is completely gone forever.
     
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  19. Usp45

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    1. everybody didnt back back in the day, please stop talking about what you know nothing about

    2. i highly doubt people are messaging you in game about how they admire you standing up for white names

    3. make a thread about your ideas for changes, ive made several is the past few weeks and they all have gotten active responses

    4. the server cannot survive without breaking the eula. i dont know where you get this idea in your head that the servers breaking the eula are some sort of awful force, but you need to understand the situation from the servers pov

    5. mr. white night, if you dont want to pay for this "dlc to give whitenames the perks that donors have" then just stop playing the server. at this point in brawls life, they literally cannot afford to completely abide by the eula, like most servers that do not have ENORMOUS playerbases like hypixel. adding a 10 minute tptimer for whitenames is a constructive idea that could be considered which would level the playing field for whitenames and donors. *****ing on the forums about how the server sucks as it is and needs to remove literally everything that the warz community has developed is not.

    6. what is the problem with giving whitenames a tptimer, giving them actual guides on how to play the game that go over combining, teams, and fighting (etc.), and having active community members team with them and help them play?

    please respond to all 6 points
     
  20. MR_naenae_1738

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    "ideas, or features of a situation"

    it's not like i know you got your wisdom teeth out. if youre going to act like you know everything, reply to everything too.

    $20 isn't a ton of money. do not give me any bs about how some people are poorer. i come from a low end family and even i can go mow a lawn for $20. we tried alternate incentives for donors. it didnt work.

    warz would be better with white names having tp's and everything you're suggesting (besides the pve mode, i PERSONALLY find that stupid and that is MY OPINION). i agree with you. but the fact of the matter is the server would not survive if white names were equal to donors gameplay wise.
     
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