Religion Debates and Discussions

Wrong. We derive meaning from our life experiences.

Wrong.

Wrong.

This is the same thing with Athiests when it comes to doing acts of kindness. They do it because they know by doing good things, it's a kind of life experience that makes you feel like you were loved or wanted for a mere moment- that's something truly special to share!

Again, you call it an excuse without thinking for yourself. You don't have to find meaning in religion, an individual and find meaning for himself without turning to religion. Quit using religion as a backup plan to be strong- stand up for yourself!

 

I meant the first part when you implied that being a nihilist means you don't have any meaning to be nice to people.

I was talking about Athiests.

 

Why are you talking about nihilism? What relevance does nihilism have? I think you'll have an easier time of understanding atheism if you stop imagining it as coming with any ideological baggage. Atheism does not mean nihilism. Atheism does not mean liberalism or secularism either. Atheism is simply a lack of belief in God. Got it?

For someone who claims to be a good moral person, you seem to hold a lot of weird views. People who are selfish and careless are strong? Also the raping people thing, but we don't have to get into that again.

If you were to become an atheist, why would it have to mean being a douche? I'm not a douche (citation needed).

 

Is this still a thing? Just incredible how you spend your time debating.
I prefer the "I just live my life".

 

Gehenna you can live any way you want as an atheist. You can have a belief in *something* out there that gives meaning to the universe, just not the God of Christianity or other religions. I'm open to the idea of there being some kind of higher power, I haven't the first clue what though.

Being atheist doesn't mean believing the universe is meaningless. There can be a meaning that you can find yourself, or there can be some meaning set down by nature, idfk. You don't have to think we were just some cosmic accident. Maybe we were put here by aliens for some purpose? Who the fk knows? The point is, you don't have to believe in the lack of care and meaning in the universe to be an atheist. Atheists are just non-believers in God, that's all it is

And you know why atheists don't act as the most selfish self-centered people, ever, even though the universe is meaningless and they'll all die one day? For the same reason Christians don't. It's called being a d1ck and its not nice. If you were an atheist, you wouldn't be like that either, unless you're just a d1ck.

You say you can't see a reason to care, but I have a reason to care, so what do you make of that? Is my reason BS?

Also we've been talking about atheism and what it means for a while. D'ya have any scientific proof of your claims yet? Just wondering

 

comparing buddhism to nihilism?
lol...
buddhism, the same religion that has an ultimate goal of reaching enlightentment, nihilistic?

buddhism states that life is like a body of water. and your consciousness is like a drop of dye. and you taint the water with your experiences.
SUPER NIHILISTIC

i'll take my own ideas from nihilism, i'll take my own ideas from buddhism and hinduism and christianity and islam to form my own ideologies on how i want to live...but i'm not going to leave pleasing a sky daddy for eternity. doesn't sound appealing.

when all humans die, science will still exist...
just because all humans are dead, that doesn't mean E=/=mc^2...

how is it religious to make our own meaning?

how is it a weak excuse? how is it an excuse?

atheism =/= nihilism

while talking about the link you posted, you also failed to point out the second commentors response
"While nihilism and atheism have been inextricably linked, I think that is an historical anomaly, not a logical one."

atheism - disbelief in divine beings
nihilism - skepticism maintaining nothing in the world means anything/rejection of religious principles

explain how being an atheist makes you a nihilist

atheists want a meaning, but they want a logical meaning... logically, a sky daddy doesn't seem fit.
my meaning in life is i want to live a happy one and i want my friends and family to live a happy life.
that's weak to you?

only when im super bored (not as much nowadays bc school)

 

"why not go further and consider yourself a nihilist" because some of us don't reject moral principles and as atheists we can believe in things other than our "own meaning" which wouldn't fall under nihilism

please, being atheist is practically being a nihilist.
there are similarities but they are not the same.

are catholics and protestants the same?

 

...what is your point?

lots of people believe that, i for one will believe it until proven otherwise, you give no counter argument

 

that is not what i was saying...

how is it religious to make our own meaning in life?

religion gives meaning, but does making my own meaning make me religious?

comparable to religion =/= religious

if they arent the same why do you insist that atheists and nihilists are practically the same?
my point was that i know they arent the same. but i could go on saying how "theyre so similar that theyre practically the same" but there are still differences. the same applies with atheism/nihilism

 

because the greeks and romans created basically everything in western civilization and were looking for meaning in things they observed in life. holy **** out of all the gods you pick to ask us to explain the greek gods are BY FAR the easiest

 

Gehenna, you need to understand that I don't reject your evidence for the sake of it. I don't have this deep agenda to push, that God isn't real. If you had actual evidence, I would be kind of salty that I was wrong but I would also be happy because it would mean that we finally had an answer to the origin of the universe. But you don't have any conclusive evidence, none whatsoever.

Wait, so you're saying there isn't anything out there? there isn't any evidence? THANK GOD, WE'VE GOTTEN THROUGH TO HIM!!!!

now you need to understand that believing something without evidence is pointless, and that if you believe in God there's no reason why ya shouldn't believe in anything else that can't be proved. can you do that 4 me pls?

 

Catholics (and most protestants) are not christians, because they believe in a false gospel of works.

''A person must also repent of their sins (stop living a sinful life) ... '' - That's worksalvation. The Bible teaches that we are saved by faith alone (Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV, Romans 4:5 KJV, Romans 11:6 KJV) in how that Jesus, God in the flesh (1 Timothy 3:16 KJV), died for our sins, was buried and rose again the third day ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV) for the payment of sins, salvation from hell and eternal life. God's word is the source of faith (Romans 10:17 KJV) and in order to hear (understand) that, it's to be received as the word of God (1 Thessalonians 2:13 KJV).

Worksalvation leads to hell as we can read in Matthew 7:21-23 KJV. Notice how Jesus NEVER them (not once knew them, like the ''lose your salvationists'' think). These people are mentioning their wonderful WORKS (stop living a sinful life is also defined as a work in the Bible. Read: Jonah 3:10 KJV). These people weren't saved, because they failed to do the will of the Father which is found in John 6:39-40 KJV; verse 39 teaching once saved always saved and verse 40 teaching immediate eternal life by faith alone.

 

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