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Is Hardcore gamemode dead?

Discussion in 'Suggestions / Ideas' started by TheSithEwok, Oct 4, 2017.

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  1. TheSithEwok

    TheSithEwok New Member

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    Would love to play it, have memories of years ago playing with the various kits and would love to try it again, seems like nobody is playing it on this server? Is it mainly busy on weekends? Does anyone know of any good busy HC game servers?
     
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  3. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    Hate to break it to ya, but you're 2 years too late. hg's been dead since McPVP sold it off to Brawl
     
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    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    <==
     
  5. MattM1PVP

    MattM1PVP Ex-HG Staff Member

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    There should be a tournament coming up. Keep checking the forums to see if there's any news on this.
     
  6. _ExtrasPvP_

    _ExtrasPvP_ Active Member

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    Join us for the upcoming tournament young man !
     
  7. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    Oh great more 1.8 BS coming up Xd
     
  8. Miskey

    Miskey Leader of Annihilation | Former Media Manager

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    Aside from blockhitting, brawl has essentially switched to 1.7 pvp. Just get laby or old animations mod for the blockhitting and there's basically no difference.
     
  9. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    And terrible soup registration and really wierd 8block hits
     
  10. _ExtrasPvP_

    _ExtrasPvP_ Active Member

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    that's kinda true LOL
     
  11. Champloo

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    Yes it is
     
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  12. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    Gtfo :N
     
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    Sorry I was wrong.
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  14. FearTheDoggos

    FearTheDoggos Ex- WildWest/WarZ MOD

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    It is mainly busy whenever friends are on it. That is about it.
    Personally, I experienced this server only quite recently. @TheMafias introduced me and @Nafsu to it when we (*cough* nafsu and mafias *cough*) took a break from building and I had a lot more fun than I expected and I'm AWFUL at sword pvp :stuck_out_tongue:. I find that HG will usually have many players if they see other players online, just from the three of us joining alone 5+ players had joined. I think the best way to revive HG is to actually play it :v

    The rest of this is at the entire community btw :C
    A large amount of the people I see complaining the current state of HG don't really play it too much. I think the best solution would be to either make regular hours when people have many of their friends come to play (which is how HG is best played or most enjoyed as its not exactly the most fun gamemode to play by yourself :v)
    I managed to get 18+ players to join myself, @MattM1PVP, and @_ExtrasPvP_ with a 5 minute notice simply by saying in chat on the gamemode I play "Come join /play hg 2!" one time. It was extremely fun to do every once in a while, but I think asking for a consistent player base at the time being is not something anyone can look at in the near future.
    Here are some ideas to try and get a community again.
    1. Attempt at getting your friends to join for a match every day or every other day. This would give an opportunity for people to experience a match of HG with several players, and also with friends in order for them to be taught and not completely lost in each match.
    2. Consider perhaps making suggestions such as feasts more common and easier to locate. Currently the HG matches take a very long time. It can be extremely fun, but when you compare it to the most popular and most commonly played "alive" servers, a gamemode that takes time, is gamemode thats dead. Make it more fast paced. People would enjoy it more.
    3. Once you have a community talk to them all and brainstorm and make an update doc, come up with simple things that can be done to make the gameplay better.
    4. Stop clinging to the past. The biggest problems with most gamemodes that I have seen, is that the community and people who are complaining about dead their gamemodes all speak of "Oh, we need to make it the way it was a long time ago!" "We all enjoyed it when it was slow and took and hour to complete a match!" "We need to keep it to the old ways, because people want that more!"
    Nope! This very clearly doesn't work. We can't keep holding on to the past. Period. Holding on to the past has been what we have done, and each time we attempt to bring stuff back to the way it was a long time ago, it simply dies. HG will not be revived by making it the way it was a long time ago. We need to all wake up. Recognize this fact.

    HG is dead.


    HG the way we all loved is gone. It will never be what it once was. Why haven't we all seen past this?
    We need something NEW. The old ways are over. Make it more pot related, make chests more common, make the kits a little more easy to get, give us suggestions. Something! Telling and speaking about how dead it is does nothing.
    Here's one thought to end this:
    Maybe a Hardcore gamemode isn't what we want? Hardcore isn't FUN. Make HG fun again, don't make it "great".
    Before you all throw a fit and flame me read through this more than one time, don't rage at me before you consider what I have said.
    Feel free to yell at me all you want about how wrong I am, but you had best come up with some ideas to counter what I have said.
    Lets get the conversation started again.
    #MakeHGFunAgain

    "There is no more neutrality in the world. You either have to be part of the solution, or you're going to be part of the problem"
     
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  15. Miskey

    Miskey Leader of Annihilation | Former Media Manager

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    The left click bug that makes soup reg bad is fixable with old animations mod. 8 blocking is less impactful in 1.8 than it is in 1.7 as well, as mojang actually deployed an update that fixed the relog and reach advantage bugs when 1.8 was first released.

    If everyone that complained about hg being dead played hg there wouldn't be a player issue. There's clearly another problem, however with little to no dev time for hg at the moment all we can do is host events and pray.
     
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  16. FearTheDoggos

    FearTheDoggos Ex- WildWest/WarZ MOD

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    So we should just give up? Prayer doesn't seem to be answered for anything irl from me, why would it answer anything on a video game? I'd rather fight for something I enjoy.
    This almost exactly my point though... If the people complaining would just play :V It would encourage others to join. Lead by example.
     
  17. Champloo

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    It's not fun to play
     
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  18. Miskey

    Miskey Leader of Annihilation | Former Media Manager

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    That's not what I'm saying. I'm pointing out a big issue we have within the community, which is the fact that all of the players complaining about noone playing don't play themselves.

    As far as hg itself goes, I've tried to help a ton, even writing a full hg revamp doc @MattM1PVP can confirm. It was almost completely shut down by higher staff saying no dev is going to be working on hg soon.

    There are glaring issues with current hg, and we've tried desperately to get them fixed. We can keep trying to bring players in, but without crucial fixes coming through I just fear that they'll leave again.
     
  19. EmperorTrump45

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    90% of those complaints are memes.

    Anyway, why would I play a game that I never found that enjoyable when I could just play some League? Only instance I could see myself playing HG would be if I was in a call w/friends and 3+ other people were online - so basically never

    Why would a dev work on HG? Totom dedicated a ton of time to it and the playercount is still 0 over half the time. It's a giant black hole

    There are like, no players left to leave. Seriously. 5 dudes getting together every now and then is not a community. HG doesn't have one and hasn't since late 2014 when BadBoyHalo streamed/uploaded it to his channel.

    I don't see anything wrong with keeping it around, since doing so costs Brawl nothing, but make it an events server (which is pretty much what it is at this point) and take it off the homepage except when there's an event. Seeing a bunch of zeroes on server playercount looks depressing anyway

    You got 100k+ subs? Me neither
     
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  20. Miskey

    Miskey Leader of Annihilation | Former Media Manager

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    I'm stubborn as hell though, so I'm going to keep trying to help hg even if it's not realistic. I'm rewriting my hg rework doc tonight and I'll be looking for some feedback. Keep an eye out for it.
     
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