#stopUMP45

3 headshots*
or maybe i missunderstood you and you meant 2 headshots and one body shot...

 

2 headshot, 3body

 

I dislike using the UMP45 and MG4 because they just don't feel that good to me. Not sure how else to explain it. I'd rather use m4a1 over UMP45 and MG4 in any given circumstance. Now the question is, if half of the guns are "broken", are they really "broken", or is that just the standard around here, with the other half of the guns being mediocre? I love seeing people complain about the power of guns, but what they're not realizing, or ignoring, is that it was way worse in Legacy. Unless you guys want the Iso and Crossbow back, just continue to do what you guys did in Legacy...

Spoiler: Outdated meme

I know this was more of a joke post but I wanted to argue for the sake of it so...

 

#****UMP45 bruh
#****MG4 bruh
#****ALLNOOBS
#BANUMP45

 

perect

perfect*

 

Yeah sorry I meant if you get 2 headshots and then one body shot, it will kill.

I personally believe that the UMP is just broken. More or less with Steady Aim. It's unaimed accuracy at mid range is just insanity. When using Steady Aim UMP, there is just like no reason to aim and you can seriously just destroy ARs at those ranges. Now I'll be honest, I am not as familiar with UMP without Steady Aim, and I don't know what perks people are using against with it, so I just assume Steady Aim, as it's like the best perk for it, unless you want to use something else. My point being, I'm not as sure as if it is just that UMP w/ Steady Aim needs a nerf or that the gun also needs a nerf. I do think it does, but I will need to test it without Steady Aim to be more sure. (Also I don't think the MG4 is broken, but I think they just need to make it where it doesn't 2 shot headshot.)

 

I have no problem playing against UMPs with an ACR or even an AK without Steady aim. I use F5 to peek around a corner, and act according to what gun the other person has. Sure, surprise UMP attackers are pretty annoying, but nothing that bad. Additionally, I actually feel like I'm doing worse if I use a UMP. I like to save my ammo and focus on not dying, so I use bandolier. The UMP shoots too fast for me to be able to properly conserve ammo. Everyone is saying that the UMP is broken, but it runs out of ammo too quickly. If you're trying to plow down people and don't care about dying, yeah it's OP. However, if you actually want to get a score that has over 3-5 KDR, the UMP is just not the choice for you. I will acknowledge that some people are able to get decent scores with it, but it's very minimal at best from what I've seen.

I'd also like to point out how idiotic it is to complain about the UMP being overpowered when shotguns, snipers, and the ACR/AK exist. Come on, everyone... Really? Half of the god damn gun roster is "overpowered". How about we bring back rays and cbows to see how much more pointless complaining we can get.

 

I personally disagree about ammo (and because of that not being able to get a high KDR game) being a problem. I think I'm not the only person who have had *insane* games with UMP w/ Steady Aim with ammo not being a problem. You obviously just haven't seen those, because it's not really a huge problem. Just because *you* run out of ammo too quickly without using Bando and because you can "adapt" to UMP users doesn't mean it doesn't need a nerf.

Also do you think the shotties and snipers are OP? I don't they they are. The shotties, except for Striker Steady Aim, aren't that strong and the snipers just take some skill. I do agree about the ACR/AK point though. They are extremely strong and they should also get an evaluation in the future.