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Idea 1.7 Enchanting/Hunger Based Map Reset

Discussion in 'Raid' started by Sleeq, Jan 9, 2018.

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Do You Agree?

  1. Yes I want a map reset

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  2. Fix the problems but no map reset

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  3. No

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  1. Sleeq

    Sleeq Banned

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    1. Enderpearls only at 1k
    2. Disable Debuffs weakness instant damage poison slowness etc.
    3. Remove Punch 2
    4. Remove Players from placing sponges because they abuse it to PvP Log in mid air.
    5. Remove Cobwebs being placed from spawn to 1k blocks.
    6. Fix the bug with /shop being able to use only 2 levels to repair each piece of an op set. This is ridiculous. 1.8 already changes how easy it is to get protection 4 by using level 30 and getting 27 instantly after an enchant. It is super easy to get p4 this way and makes losing p4 not big of a deal. I think that next map reset should bring back 1.7 enchanting without lapis and the level 27 after enchanting 30.
    7. Bring back 1.7 saturation. If you eat steak and get full hunger its 25 seconds if you are running till you have to eat food again. That is 26 minutes of you traveling and using a stack of steak. Fix this.
    8. Remove double xp haste boost and speed two that is do overpowered I think this is just for another way for the server to make money.

    PS: I already know someone is going to say remove everything like gapples p4 sharp 5 and everything in the game as a joke/critizing.
    How are we supposed to kite from a 6v1 if you have 6 people with punch 2 bows knockback swords to boost teamates and cobwebs and debuffs. It really is annoying when you are beating someone in pvp and they start kiting with a bow and debuff you with a slowness and they just get away. You have to use all your levels and diamonds to fix your set. Pently personally I really want a map reset because the main reason everyone has fullmap trackers up a day after they get all of theirs raided. ENCHANTING is the main reason why this server is dying. We need a map reset to roll back 1.7 hunger and 1.7 enchanting and this will make it harder to enchant pickaxes which will reduce the amount of obby people get because of how hard it is to enchant pickaxes. This means less trackers. This means more pvp outside of spawn in iron instead of people constantly going in op and hiding in spawn because they are afraid to leave. This means less trackers populated on the map. This means less tracker raids. This means more of a chance of tracking bases. This means everything is worth more than it should. I really want a reset. Im going to create a poll please be honest and give this whole thread a chance. I want you to tell me what you really feel. I know some people here hate me and dont wanna agree with me but seriously just be honest here and tell me what you feel.
     
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    #1 Sleeq, Jan 9, 2018
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  2. Jeenss

    Jeenss Ex-Raid Mod

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    I don't think all of these changes are possible, or some would take a lot of dev. time, which could be used in better ways.
     
    #2 Jeenss, Jan 9, 2018
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  3. Sleeq

    Sleeq Banned

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    Tbh I don’t even think we have devs because when the tnt/explosive bug kept crashing the server when creepers exploded it took 5 days for this to be fixed that was so pathetic if I was a server owner I’d want to hire new devs and make that never happen again.
     
  4. RiskyRuskii

    RiskyRuskii Well-Known Member

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  5. WurschtBanane

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    Remove Kb2? Why the hell would you do that? Most of the changes you sugessted would remove tactical depth from the game and just favor the most numerous team during fights.

    1.7 enchanting is a good idea, as i think, but atm it would just make it unfair for the players who have not grinded 20 sets (or gotten them from a vault that got rerolled *cough*).
    I think next map, implementation of 1.7 enchanting aswell as the removal of the shop glitch need to be done. If it takes too much effort to save experience level data when selling things, just disable the ability to sell enchanted items, or if you do, make them turn into unenchanted.

    The only thing i agree on, is fixing the bug that lets you shoot yourself and boost forwards with a punch II bow. Maybe you can simply disable the ability to shoot yourself with a bow?
     
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  6. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    Gets trapped in cobweb... 'Remuve alL CoBWebS!'
    Gets debuffed in a fight... 'bAN aLL DebUFs!'
    Gets out played in pvp 'rEmuVe aLl pVp aSpecTs uv tHe gaMe!'
     
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  7. Carnotauros

    Carnotauros Raid & Events Manager

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    Agreed.
    Already suggested: https://www.brawl.com/threads/69027/
    Disabling the ability to sell enchanted items would be very annoying for players like @Colonel_Graff who invest in the shop, enchanted items are a large part of the shop and should remain like that imo.

    I personally like this glitch, without it you’d just have a lot of un-repairable p4 laying around in your base. If 1.7 enchanting gets re-added, this glitch would be quite nice to keep.
    Why not remove the enchant entirely?
     
  8. Colonel_Graff

    Colonel_Graff http://www.brawl.com/games/ctf/lookup/188857/

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    Omg I abuse the shop glitch to no end. There are ways to abuse it with books too, and minimize the XP needed to combine books.
     
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  9. WurschtBanane

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    glitches must be fixed
     
  10. lilfloat

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    no more enchants or pots. bring back mcpvp elite for a map.
     
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  11. Colonel_Graff

    Colonel_Graff http://www.brawl.com/games/ctf/lookup/188857/

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    Lol, you have no idea what's out there....
     
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  12. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    The repair glitch is used by everyone (even ritzy who is biases and temp kicked vanta players for it), if it was removed p4 would be worthless after 2 fights and making koths far more expensive to contest and the rewards for winning a koth not worth the risk.
     
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  13. RiskyRuskii

    RiskyRuskii Well-Known Member

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    Pretty one sided to call Ritzy abusive when it wasn't common knowledge among staff at the time that the shop gltich was tempbannale or not.
     
  14. CalledRainer

    CalledRainer Well-Known Member

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    @WurschtBanane
    1) I got 7 sets out of my rerolled vault.
    2) You abused a glitch which gives you the same advantage as a xray client/tp
    3) I dont even care about 7 sets since i have about 40...

    I just think that enderpearls should be completely disabled and end should always be a 10 sec warp
     
  15. Tuumai

    Tuumai Raid Sub-Manager

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    Enderpearls
    To be honest, I wouldn't even mind enderpearls getting fully disabled. They've always been annoying in pvp. +1

    Debuffs
    Debuffs has been always part of pvp, just learn how to use them and dodge them. If you get debuffed for long, bring milk. -1

    Punch II
    This is as annoying as enderpearls. This thing should be deleted/banable. People always like punching himself to 500 blocks and then they just start using enderpearls. Yes, I know I can always bring my own bow and try to catch that guy, but It's not fun. +1

    Sponges
    I've always hated sponges too, even suggested to remove sponges fully. About these people logging mid-air, I even made an own post about it.
    https://www.brawl.com/threads/69390/
    It is very annoying when people do that, just add gravity to the PvP loggers or something. +0

    Cobweb
    I don't see anything wrong with cobwebs. -1

    1.7 enchanting
    Yes, 1.7 should really be added. P4 is not a rare thing anymore. When I get p4 raids, they just don't feel as good as they did before.
    Bringing 1.7 enchanting would be very good add. +1

    New map
    Raid map 3 has been out for like 3-4 months, adding a new map is a bad idea. You need to start everything again. -1

    EDIT:
    Haste II

    I don't know what you guys think about Haste II and Double xp boosters. I think they are too op, I don't know how to nerf this thing but, something should be done to these boosters.
     
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    #15 Tuumai, Jan 10, 2018
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  16. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    Did you misspell bias or were you not able to read what I said?
    Although it was abusive as he did not give warnings and went straight to a 1hour kick (the length of most koths),
    I said he was biases as he only did it to Vanta players/truces.
    And he is a pretty bad MOD if he can't keep up with changes to the rules that i even knew about.
    In before ritzy cries about people talking about his history (he tends to get made when players talk about him teaming with hackers or abusing his position)
     
  17. RiskyRuskii

    RiskyRuskii Well-Known Member

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    if you think he is bias I have the 2hour recording of koth and of him strictly saying "guys dont abuse shop either or ill have to temp ban you" and he only tempbanned the players when there was video evidence of them doing so on shop and warned people on chat not to do it.
     
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  18. CalledRainer

    CalledRainer Well-Known Member

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    If haste 2 is nerfed i wont buy any more boosters since i can get haste1 easily with a beacon
     
  19. Spellslot

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    First: I don't know of this shop glitch please tell me how it works.

    Second: I think the hunger should be added back to 1.7 but not the enchanting.

    Third: Obby is already very hard for noobs like me to harvest without getting rekt by someone in p4 in the end. Also it is unfair to the people who don't have trackers if obby becomes harder to find and it gives a huge advantage to people with trackers already. I know that you said if this happens there could be a reset but the build team would have to make another map and that takes awhile for a good one to be made.

    Forth: Potions are a part of pvp and us noobs need it to kill the people in p4 at spawn killing us every time we try to warp. I personally have had this happen to me last map were a player in no armor just hit me in full p4 with 5 damage 2 pots and I died instantly. Its a part of the game.

    Fifth: The enchanting might be a good thing though. This is because people have vaults and vaults full of p4 and no one wants to pvp in iron with the newer players so they just quit. So you might be right about the enchanting 1.7.

    Sixth: Punch 2 is part of minecraft. I have never gotten aa punch 2 bow but ive seen the people who do and they go flying its fun to watch ;P.

    Seventh: I personally like the sponge plugin. And I was amazed that you could get them from voting. But remember that they are naturally found in ocean temples so it would be hard to take them out of every ocean temple. And if they use it in pvp they will get fall damaged and this is a new concept of getting out of combat that I never have heard of. Easy solution: use a bow.

    Eighth: I really dont care about cobwebs because I dont use them so it doesnt really matter for me if these are taken away but probably someone will object so I will protect them ;P. You can place blocks near spawn and its a part of pvp so why take them away.


    PS: Yes remove the bug in shop if it is not supposed to be there. I don't even know how to abuse the bug but still. Remove it I agree on that aspect.
     
  20. Sleeq

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    Everyone keeps on complaining on this post in the comments saying if we remove that or add that it is unfair for people that got to use that glitch enchants obby stuff like this. Easy solution to fix everything wrong with this map without making everyone angry for removing or adding something during this map is a MAP RESET. Please rethink about what you guys want individually you guys want some things to be fixed and are saying I don’t want that added or removed because it will be unfair because people got p4 a bunch of obby why make it harder to get. Map reset bois just vote and stop being stubborn. This week (Monday and Tuesday) I’ve seen nobody on during EST time zone 3-10PM only like 10 players the map is going to die if we don’t do something to change and make it better.
     
    #20 Sleeq, Jan 10, 2018
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