To Atheists...

Wise choice you made there.

 

"God does not interfere with free will"

My favorite part of the Bible is where God gives humans free will and then drowns them all for not acting how he wants.

"Radiation is not physical.... Sounds a lot like sin"

Part 237 of "Gehenna doesn't know how to science".

Radiation IS physical. It can be a particle or a wave and it comes in different forms but it is real. You can't "touch" it in the same way that you can't "touch" an atom but it exists and we can measure it and we know how/why it exists. To compare it to "sin" is intellectually dishonest.

So you admit that God is basically punishing these children for the actions of others? And don't give me "oh it's just a by-product, it has nothing to do with God".

When you built God up to be all-powerful, you can't claim that things like Hell and sin have nothing to do with him. All-powerful means HE has the power to stop/control everything. If a five-year-old gets cancer and God doesn't do anything to stop it, I consider him morally culpable. To be the creator of the universe and to have complete power over the universe MEANS that everything that happens in the universe is your responsibility. The argument that God doesn't have to answer for the suffering in the world makes absolutely zero sense with all of the other tenets of Christianity.

Imagine the classic moral problem of the people lying on the train tracks - do you kill 1 person to save 5? Except in this situation it's much simpler. A million people are about to die and all you have to do is pull the lever. None of these people did anything to deserve their fate. Will you pull it? If so, congratulations, you're more moral than God.

I think my point can be summed up in what one Jewish prisoner wrote on the wall of his cell in Auschwitz

"If there is a God, he will have to beg for my forgiveness."

 

^^^^
Exactly what I wanted to say.

 

he's kinda been doing that with 99% of his replies to everyone lol he ignores what he can't explain or answer and only responds to the parts that he can reply to

 

People with faith might outnumber the people without faith in the world, but here on Brawl... reversed.

 

we're young

the youth are less religious

 

Enjoy it now, because it won't last

Btw the median age for an Atheist is 34

 

In regards to that... "
If someone does not come to believe in God because of stubbornness or refusal to give up selfish desires, then such a person would be culpable for his lack of belief.

If, however, because of circumstances a sincere person is prevented from coming to belief in God, then his lack of faith is called invincible ignorance, and such a person would not be considered culpable."

This is the stance of The Catholic Church, and not necessarily held by everyone.

 

stubbornness?

is it stubborn not to believe in the flat earth? is it stubborn to not believe 9/11 conspiracies? It's not out of stubbornness that we don't believe in God. It's out of reason and logic.

 

Public service announcement: Watch some Jordan Peterson lectures, it's good for you.

 

*see the edit


You're incredibly wrong there, check out this graph of the demographics of New Zeland for instance, the tendency is the exact opposite, and where did you find the medium age? Could you give me your source? I would prefer to get the median age, more useful imo. And the medium age of christians is 50 btw


EDIT: Woops, I thought you were talking about the fact that youth is less religious when you said "don't worry it won't last", as if people were getting more and more religious, but it was just a harmless comment, my bad...

 

An excellent example of how "you send yourself to Hell" is a logical fallacy. Providing an ultimatum does not absolve you of responsibility.

If a mugger points a gun at your head and says "give me your money or you die" and you say "no, I'm not giving you any money" and he shoots you, did you kill yourself? According to Gehenna's logic because you had a free choice to give him your money, it's you that killed yourself.

Just as with God, it's "do exactly as it says here in this book that was written two thousand years ago and may or may not be true or you suffer for eternity". Apparently if you refuse and you suffer for eternity, you made yourself suffer?

 

I'm more and more confused each time Gehenna tries to justify this, apparently, it's you that sends yourself to Hell, but your sins at the same time, that you or someone else in the world commited, or your ancestors, and sins are neither magic, neither physical, yet they interract with the real world, and God can't do anything about it because he can't change free will as if we decided to go to hell by ourselves...
I just can't put order in all this

I don't get how is people going to hell not a choice from God, since he can "forgive" sinners, he can avoid people to go to hell. If you tell me "yeah but some people don't deserve it", if you see a man, whatever crimes he's commited, and you could either give him eternal suffering, or going to heavens, it's common sense to give him access to heavens, since it doesn't harm anyone that he goes there.

If you could explain this Gehenna, I'm really confused rn.

 

Hey, I don't mean to go off topic, but look what I found xD
http://www.debate.org/debates/Flat-Earth-vs-Globe-Earth/1/

Surprisingly, and I only glanced through the arguments, the flat-earth person actually uses some interesting points.

 

The earth is a flat hollow triangular oblate five dimensional sphere.

Also, did i mention? We actually live on the inside.
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Lol you mad bro? Are you saying they are still alive? Didn't think so...
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Gotta say one thing by the way, it's really funny how most people who endorce evolution deny the obvious and blatant differences in both physical and mental abilities of different races...
Then again, some (most) Christians like to claim that we all came from Adam and eve, and that Noah had a white, black and yellow son since apparently when the bible uses hyperbole it supposedly should be taken literally. Or, that somehow the races evolved ("micro evolution") over a period of a few hundred years.... which is ridiculous, since by that logic Australians would all be black by this point. (no, the flood of noah was not global)

Honestly don't know which is worse...

 

Interestingly enough, Pew Research predicts that Atheism will grow in popularity a little in Europe and in the US, but in terms of the world population it will decrease from 16% of the world population to around 13% by 2050. This is only following current trends.

I received the statistic about the median Atheist age from here: http://www.pewforum.org/2015/05/12/chapter-3-demographic-profiles-of-religious-groups/