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Ban system is very poor.

Discussion in 'KitBrawl' started by Jeaton, Jan 29, 2018.

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  1. Jeaton

    Jeaton Member

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    There's more than a few things I could talk about regarding the punishment system, it's pretty much terrible through every aspect. I've already spoken to several staff members about it before, and most agree. Despite there being so many things wrong, I'm making writing this post about one in particular; one that affects me rather than the ones actually breaking rules.





    Here are only a few of the times I've been false banned by STAFF (not including the anti-cheat, which can't do its job either). Not a single time has a staff member come to me with exceptional proof, if they even had any at all. Most don't. I keep getting banned and I'll keep getting banned until someone decides to straighten out the trigger-happy staff members that stalk me every time I play.

    If the initial proof isn't good enough to keep me banned, don't ban me in the first place. Some of the staff members need to learn some sense, because there's someone new on my tail doing the same thing every few days. I've already proven myself to be innocent, and if staff aren't going to get off my ass then I'll probably wound up getting falsely permanently banned with no appeal just because I don't record 24/7 and missed recording the crucial fight that gets me banned.
     
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  2. Vacume

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    What's your pack I like it
     
  3. Lekosa1

    Lekosa1 mineman

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    btw /report is for reporting hackers or OOMers (out of map), /chatreport is for hackusating and other chat offenses
     
  4. SharkBaitBooHaha

    SharkBaitBooHaha Well-Known Member

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    It’s been this way for a while now. The staff has been always been not-so great when it comes to banning folks. And I don’t know why but they own up to false banning to good players (An example is Removers). The main reason why is because we don’t see phenomenonal players come around often.

    Solution is probably take it up with Canoodle, who is the staff manager. You can do this by starting a conversation with her. And go from there.
    Other than that it’ll keep happening.

    Good forum post nonetheless.
     
  5. Touchie

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    I just love how you say "The ban hammer" on that first video LOL
     
  6. Spirals

    Spirals Savage!!calculatedd!

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    brawl doesn't deserve players like you. this is just sad
     
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  7. fridge

    fridge Active Member

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    wow u can click aim and refill cheater....
     
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  8. xxMineSheepxx

    xxMineSheepxx baaaahh

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    you probs have god ping, so everyone sees you as reach and reduced kb even though it's not??
     
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  9. Sayan

    Sayan Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for making this thread. It's about time the brawl mods saw what an actual good player looked like.
    Looks like a dynamic duo revamp
    Well said.
    That's is not how the game works lol. He is beating people because he is better than they are.
     
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  10. MoistMayonnaise

    MoistMayonnaise Highly Established Member

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    But Canoodle is away, this could have helped previously, maybe Lord_Roke would be the admin to start a conversation with.
     
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  11. Jeaton

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    Literally any ping can "appear" to have reach and reduced kb. Experienced players are more familiar with gameplay and have developed muscle memory that exploits the advantages of latency. Thats all a skilled player IS, just someone who has grown accustom to their internet connection and developed the best movment and timing to go with it.

    No, I'm not saying that when someone appears to 5 block you it's just lag. It means they've correctly utilized latency, which takes experience and skill. It could also mean that the player is cheating. The ability to distinguish between those two takes a lot of experience as well, obviously, since a bunch of bad players (and staff) constantly hackusate and ban me.

    My footage doesn't look like an average player's, so I don't know where you grabbed your conclusion from.

    MC PvP is just a ping-based game: not true-just a common misconception among poor players.
     
  12. MoistMayonnaise

    MoistMayonnaise Highly Established Member

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    What do you propose the server does with the staff team and anti cheat? I suppose as players we could all think of a solution.
     
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  13. Redorian

    Redorian Well-Known Member

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    So basically you have just wasted 13 minutes of my life instead of having some common sense and appeal
     
  14. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    lol cheater
     
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  15. Jeaton

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    must not be common sense if they staff aren't "common" enough to use it

    and this post hasn't done anything anyway considering:
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    I couldn't really care less. As far as can I see, the ban system is hopeless because they won't pay for a better anti-cheat system (I could give them good names myself), and they don't seem to be caring about fixing the incompetence. This is more like a personal request for the staff to get off of my ass. New players can fend for themselves. Too much trouble.

    This isn't my server. The administration should be actively searching for solutions, not me.
     
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  16. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    this is probably because of the hack test that JMODs have to go through in order for them to be promoted.

    I've heard from several staff members (not naming who) that they passed the test purely due to luck. I honestly don't think it's an efficient way of making sure mods know what they're doing, considering a lot of them don't.

    force the mods to record at all times, this will give proof and stop those certain staff members who refuse to give proof because they just don't have any. this will stop a lot of false bans before they take place, and overall make everything more efficient. I don't know why it isn't a rule already. if somebody's too laggy to play while recording don't give them mod, keep them as a JMOD to where they can efficiently do the job they're able to perform which is to moderate chat.
     
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  17. SharkBaitBooHaha

    SharkBaitBooHaha Well-Known Member

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    :thinking: well he had to write 3 appeals that don’t get immediate responses, and it’s not just him. It’s a brawlwide issue. He’s the victim, how would you like it if you were denied service to something you enjoy for something that’s not your fault?
     
  18. Redorian

    Redorian Well-Known Member

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    Keep mind that I've been false banned a lot too and I just kept appealing until they accepted
     
  19. Jeaton

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    And yet here you are "wasting time" on this thread just as I am?

    Since you're admitting to being aware of the issue, your post served no purpose other than to be an ass. Why don't you carry on with your own business? If you're content with appealing once in a blue moon when you actually get banned, then mind your business because some people get irritated after being banned for reach or killaura daily.
     
  20. MoistMayonnaise

    MoistMayonnaise Highly Established Member

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    Maybe if we actually contribute some time and effort to helping them find a better solution, a staff member may read this and say "Hey that's not a bad idea!" and then bring it up in a staff meeting or talk and try to convince the owner and Devs to work on it. If say we find a better anti cheat or some solution within a decent proce range as well, it may be implemented to the server.
     
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