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Todays KOTH was a prime example of why KOTH needs better rewards.

Discussion in 'Raid' started by Exaggeration, Mar 24, 2018.

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  1. Exaggeration

    Exaggeration Raid | Team Envy

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    After rereading this post, it is quite jumbled and may be hard to understand to fully understand the point I'm trying to make, look at the bit at the bottom of the post for an explanation.

    So, i just finished KOTH. Where team Chaos won after a gruesome 3 hours and 24 minutes. Excluding the length, this was exactly how KOTH should be. Chaos and SuB, two teams fighting it out, team fights, outnumbering, lots of chances for the better team to be victorious. Excluding the time, there were some fun moments today.

    Again, this is generally how KOTH should be.

    Some would argue that KOTH should finish faster and i agree, but there is little denying this is how KOTH should be in terms of fighting. Now whats the problem? The problem is, i personally (using myself as an example cause i know exactly what i lost, not trying to complain because most of my teammates used more than me):

    I used 3 separate sets of armor up until they were close to broken, and even broke a helmet once (didn't want to shop glitch while so many people were on) and this will eventually cost me tons of xp and diamonds.
    I lost a set, due to dying (not complaining about my death, highlighting that you can die in KOTH which makes it useless to go back to, which i will touch on later)
    I spent probably close to 30-40 gold on potions, while also constantly warping back to pot banks putting them at a tracking risk.


    And for all of this, i got 1 gapple, a moosh egg, and a stack of xp bottles.

    Now what is the problem for all this? Well, most KOTHS i haven't had a problem. Most KOTH's are stompy, where one team is capping and the other occasionally comes into knock. Ive participated in about 7-8 KOTH's now, and whether or not I'm on the receiving end of this or on the winning side, all of the other KOTH's of played this was definitely the most competitive one.

    Now, when KOTH plays out like it supposed to play out, it may be fun but is hardly worth it. KOTH's require so much resources from players and I'm probably going to flat out quit if i get out of the fight with a broken p4 set now, because taking another one usually just isn't worth it.


    Combined explanation: When KOTHS work out like they are supposed to with 2+ teams fighting over the crown, its hardly worth it. The rewards need to be greater which will be a greater incentive for more people to play and reward people for the armor they need to repair etc. When KOTH is just a stompfest because only 1 team fully commits, then the rewards work out but this will likely not happen anymore if the rewards are greater cause people wanna do it.


    hopefully y'all understand cause this was quite jumbled.
     
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  2. ActuallyMe

    ActuallyMe Banned

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    I say koth is just wasting our resources and get like trash loot. removing koth will make server better?
     
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  3. Exaggeration

    Exaggeration Raid | Team Envy

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    Absolutely not. KOTH is something people look forward too each weak and is a good way to show who's the best TEAM instead of what team just has the best players. Cause nothing else in raid besides raiding with your team really is a display of good teamwork and teams with good teamwork are fun to watch (ex: We might have individual players that are better than some of SuB's individuals, but their teamwork is much better.)
     
  4. 0racle

    0racle Former Raid and Reports Manager

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    We def need some changes pushed within the next few weeks. I say a larger arena and buffing rewards are a must. Today was just too tilting.
     
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  5. TwisterPvP

    TwisterPvP Raid Mod / Squirtle

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    We understand that KOTH needs some major improvements but I don't think removing KOTH will solve anything @ActuallyMe

    It's the time we get the most players and when the most action occurs.
     
  6. synk

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    I loved this koth, I got 4 sets of my own red(which were shopglitched so its fineee) But I got 3 new sets and a half, and a gapple with 3 s5s, I only lost 1 set, gg :smile:

    But yeah, KOTH really needs better rewards, the rewards are seriously ****, and I think you should have an automatic Booster with Spd2 that ends when the koth ends. It would help :grinning:
     
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  7. Ritzy

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    I play KOTH just for the fighting now I don’t give a **** about the loot which is why I helped chaos finish it
     
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  8. ActuallyMe

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    My man.
     
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  9. AnonymousGalaxy

    AnonymousGalaxy Raid Manager | Manager of Managing | Legacy

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    We had plans to change them for next map, but considering the push from the community for a buff I’ll see what we can do.
     
  10. Tuumai

    Tuumai Raid Sub-Manager

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    The Only reason I play koth is the pvp. Once in a week major team fights, I don't mind. I really don't care about the key at all.
     
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  11. TheMel0n

    TheMel0n 8 Year McPvPer

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    you still get a bit mad when you need to repair 8 sets p4 with 32 xp bottles and 1 moosh egg xd
     
  12. Colonel_Graff

    Colonel_Graff http://www.brawl.com/games/ctf/lookup/188857/

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    I’ve given my 2 cents on the KOTH reward.

    I basically think the winners should get XP from KOTH, and the number of levels team members get should be the minutes KOTH lasts (capped at 120).

    This gives an incentive for teams to show up, helps to repair broken items, and rewards players proportionately when KOTH goes long. KOTH players tend to be the PVPers, and could make a lot of decent sets with XP.
     
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  13. Buzzy357

    Buzzy357 Hurry and drain your tears so we can fight.

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    Koth in my personal opinion is as fine as it is, I mean

    Isnt that what all that loot you have stored in your base is for? People barely play raid when koth isnt out, so your not going to be using your loot, you can always grind more loot, sure the effort and work is grueling but the fact that you can face people as excited as you are in a giant team fight to claim the koth is what matters most, loot is a small bonus, koth loot was never supposed to be mind boggling or like "Holy Sh*t I got 32 gapples?" Koth is about pure battle, wasting loot is going to happen, and if it was a waste to you, Why did you attend the koth in the first place?

    there is a unlimited amount of resources to gather in the raid world. You can ALWAYS get your "wasted" armor back, besides this server is dying anyway, Why not waste a few sets having fun and unwinding in a koth?

    Koth is 100% worth losing the loot for the thrill of battle. and knowing that every weekend, this server sparks just a little bit. To maybe what it used to be

    But hey, Thats just my opinion.
     
  14. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    Honestly I'd rather see people playing KOTH because it's more interesting than normal gameplay, not because they want prizes. People playing a game just for the prizes almost always breeds toxicity.
     
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