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Idea Team shop

Discussion in 'Raid' started by Ry23an, Apr 11, 2018.

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Add a /team shop

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  1. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    It was suggested before that a team balance should be added (@CalledRainer )and there continues to be complaints about how easy it is to get gold (@Tuumai )

    Why not have players spend some of that gold on team pearks?
    My suggestions for a /team shop:
    Team cap of 6 for normal players, 7 for VIP, 8 for MVP, 10 for elite (only lifetime ranks) expandable with the team balance for 300g for the first 400g for the second and so on.. (limited to 15) *see below for issues with koth key
    Team create 50g
    Team invite 25g (if the player accepts)
    Team name 500g for non elites for it to be displayed in chat.
    Team colour 400g
    Team warps start with 2 and more are purchasable for 1000g each (limited to 5)
    Team target 500g unlocks /team target (player/teamname)
    Team motd 150g
    Team desc 200g
    Team name on tabs list 500g



    *add /team kothkey (player) limited to 8 players for teams with more than 8 which decides who gets a key

    Calledrainer suggested a simple version of this a while ago but I just wanted to add it as a full on team shop idea and add-in other suggestion I have heard since his thread
     
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    #1 Ry23an, Apr 11, 2018
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  2. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    Like the idea however I think the pricing of the gold should be made higher.
     
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  3. MoistMayonnaise

    MoistMayonnaise Highly Established Member

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    I would say yes, however there are players that don't have as much gold. Also what about the players who make these teams that disband after a short amount of time? I like the idea but, at the start of a map who can really afford this?
     
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  4. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    At the star of the map no one can afford it, just like p4 and most high value items it takes time to grind for.
    This helps discourage the teams just falling apart and disbanding and if a team does disband they lose their team perks and gold they spent

    I was just suggesting rough figures but I do think it should be teired prices so it is harder to just Max out early (unless you are graff)
     
  5. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    hmmm I guess. I do think there could be the problem of giving regulars an even bigger advantage because if people play more they are more likely to have more hold meaning they can have more poeple in their team etc. This means there is a higher chance of being 10v1ed and the skill gap increases between newer players and experienced players leading to a lack of new players and server growth.
     
  6. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    There still needs to be a balance between keeping the long term players motivated to keep playing (instead of just logging in for koth) and noobs just joining and having end game thinks like p4 and teams with 10 members in a week ( team Anni)
     
  7. Tuumai

    Tuumai Raid Sub-Manager

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    I don't think using gold to get higher team cap is gonna be fun. Maybe in next map, there is no team cap? SOTM people need to instantly rush to get gold so they can get their team name, I don't like that idea.
     
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  8. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    Meh I think subLAME is a nice alternative
     
  9. 0racle

    0racle Former Raid and Reports Manager

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    Going to beat @Andrwe to this and say that this might be a little too hard for new players to understand and use - mainly just for the standard team commands and functions.

    I would be all for this if gold was even easier to get. Ie small amounts on kills, mob drops, quests etc.

    Having said this though I do agree that gold does need a purpose late game but I think it would be better to go for cool upgrades and features more than just adding a cost to existing features.
     
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  10. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    Hypixel have a system like what I suggested for guilds and it is easy to use.
    As long as the commands are kept simple I don't think noob's will have an issue with it (well noobs that are able to do the current team system
     
  11. 0racle

    0racle Former Raid and Reports Manager

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    Perhaps, but it might take them a little longer to get established and could be rather overwhelming at the very start. I would argue that the majority of players who have stayed long term on raid have been in a team from the very start (whether it be with a friend or other noobs). This would complicate the system a little bit and might affect our retention imo. Also adding a cost to something that is already free really isn't a "feel good" decision to do - it doesn't really excite that much and doesn't give much incentive when players have already had these features for free.
     
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  12. jum

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    Team desc for 200g? Team motd for 150g? I mean, that's a stupid amount for such a small thing. Not a big fan of this.
     
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  13. NoHacksJustCooki

    NoHacksJustCooki Active Member

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    I've got to say I'm not such a big fan of this idea. That's just me but I just think that the team system is fine the way it is, although team caps should be increased or removed. Perhaps this is were @Ry23an 's team gold idea could come into play. You reach your normal team cap of 10 for free, but then you could start to have to pay a little more each time you invite more players. I just don't like the idea of having to pay for a team description and motd.
     
  14. Exaggeration

    Exaggeration Raid | Team Envy

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    Not a fan of this either, all it would do is just make chat grayscale and give the cool stuff we got before to the players with expendable income. Plus, Team caps expanding with gold is an idea thats heard before and i just don't think its a good idea, the power curve would be too strong and the biggest couple teams would become even bigger and the smaller teams would struggle more from this.
     
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  15. Andrwe

    Andrwe Well-Known Member

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    Haha my posts in the raid forums were pretty much boiling down to the same point for sure.

    Cosmetics feels like the easiest thing to do late game, and maybe team cosmetics is an option, but I am definitely against warps, team caps, and other advantages, -1
     
  16. BrosBeforeHoes_

    BrosBeforeHoes_ Well-Known Member

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    well I don't think the team color should be that much. I can get it from people for free. and I don't think it is easy to get gold for me it isn't I like spending it for my team I know there are the same people out there to.
     
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