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Pvp is not the same anymore

Discussion in 'Raid' started by Tuumai, Apr 10, 2018.

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You think pvp should be changed?

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  2. No -1

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  1. Tuumai

    Tuumai Raid Sub-Manager

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    No,(imo) there shouldn't be any adds like ''skills, weapons, items'' the only things raid is still alive is the pvp and tracking. I bet that all current pvpers will leave if there should be skills weapons and more items, that's not even near hardcore. If you like pvp like that, I don't think hardcore servers fits on you.
     
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  2. 0racle

    0racle Former Raid and Reports Manager

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    But hardcore is dying, no? Look at how popular the pit is or factions servers with Mcmmo or custom enchants. That's what people find fun. I'm not saying we should go full out on them, but I think it would make us much more appealing to new players if we had some custom features to make us unique and less boring. The features don't need to be insanely OP, and can still be based around the fundamentals of Raid without too heavily changing the pace of things. We need more players to stay alive, not keeping a dead idea around until the current playerbase eventually will move on, slowly killing the server, and the way to do that imo is to follow popular trends. Raid as it is unfortunately isn't popular, but it sure does have potential. You might as well just start up a vanilla server with some friends if you look at the current community of minecraft (growing to be more popular amongst younglings). I think we need to find a balance between the old ideas, and new ones that other popular servers use. It's important to look at growth, not keeping the nostalgic ideas that once gathered 50+ players on at a time daily. Trust me, I love the old raid / Spvp days and still enjoy a lot of the hardcore aspects, but we need more players. Unfortunately advertising such a server won't do us any good unless if we move past the old philosophies.
     
  3. Tuumai

    Tuumai Raid Sub-Manager

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    This is not factions, this has been a hardcore server for years, putting some random things like spells etc... will get the current members quit. Raid is not for faction players.
     
  4. CalledRainer

    CalledRainer Well-Known Member

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    Its not about forbiding extra sets or extra items. If you want a change make kiting 10 times harder and make p4 more valuable. Thats it. Noone will be able to afford bringing 2 sets then.
     
  5. Tuumai

    Tuumai Raid Sub-Manager

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    Agreed, this would 100% work. Next map will be 100% 1.7 enchanting so we will see would that work.
     
  6. 0racle

    0racle Former Raid and Reports Manager

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    Which I said is why we should find a balance between the two ideas. Factions does have some elements that are more popular. Most of their ideas do not fit on raid, but some elements we can take to make us more appealing. The limited members we have (who regularly play raid with full involvement in the server) will quit in time, and we unfortunately don't have the growth to replace them anyways. Raid simply is not appealing to new players. I feel like I'm just repeating myself here, not sure if my post made sense or not earlier / you missed some parts of it. I know a lot of people won't agree with this idea, which is fine, but Raid does have potential, it just needs to have new changes and work with how MC has evolved.
     
  7. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    Says who?
     
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  8. Tuumai

    Tuumai Raid Sub-Manager

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    You will see when the map reset is announced.
     
  9. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    I asked who told you

    What's the point in having a 1.8 pvp server without 1.8 enchants (ds3)
     
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  10. Tuumai

    Tuumai Raid Sub-Manager

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    The current value of p4 is 0. Changing to 1.7 enchanting would make p4 way more value.
     
  11. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    Who told you it would be 1.7 enchanting
     
  12. Tuumai

    Tuumai Raid Sub-Manager

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    No one hasn't told me that. It would make much sense that 1.7 enchanting will be added, and it will for sure.
     
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  13. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    So who has?
     
  14. Ritzy

    Ritzy Est. 2014
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    Soup HCF would be and is way more fun.
     
  15. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    So would skywars but that's also a different gamemode

    -_-
     
  16. ActuallyMe

    ActuallyMe Banned

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    If you want p4 to be more valuable, make it 1.7 enchant
     
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  17. Exaggeration

    Exaggeration Raid | Team Envy

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  18. TheMel0n

    TheMel0n 8 Year McPvPer

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    “Hype”
     
  19. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    So you scroll Soup?
     
  20. Exaggeration

    Exaggeration Raid | Team Envy

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    Nope, i hotkey! what gave you the impression?
     
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