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Discussion in 'MC-WarZ' started by chickenputty, Jul 8, 2018.

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  1. chickenputty

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    Let us know what you think.

    We need constructive criticism on your suggested changes.
     
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  2. JordanZ_PvP

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    I think this would be pretty cool :grinning:
     
  3. chickenputty

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    Don't think about it, its out.
     
  4. Communications

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    WOw!!!! Im So Lokin g Forward to thi gameode! I cna t imaginte the fun I will Have on the server and the Memories that made will be Thanks Chicken PUtyty?

    Now For my constructive Crititisim WOuld be TO undo every changew youVe just one, THanks :grinning:
     
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  5. tallscot

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    To be honest Wild West and WarZ were two completely different game modes that shouldn't have been merged in the first place (I know it's only been like an hour but hear me out)

    A major reason WarZ was so fun was because it was fast paced and intense. The map was a perfect size to where you could get to the action quickly, there were only a few hot spots to where fights would occur (most of the time), the food system and combos were perfect to where fights could last anywhere up from mere seconds to an hour or more.

    Wild West is a very slow paced gamemode. You sit afk for a long time just trying to make money, with a huge map and little action. Fights aren't as fun because there's nothing to it except point and shoot. No tricks or combos, nothing. When you die in Wild West you easily get loot back, especially if you're one of the more wealthy players on the server (or in a decent team). On WarZ you have to fight to get loot back. You get your gear from killing others and becoming skilled at the game, not from buying it from some shopkeeper. Sure you loot gear as well, but the predominant way to get gear is by killing others.

    Since I doubt you guys would undo this whole merge thing and nullify all the hard work you put into it (not another Battle Royale incident) here's some criticism/ideas you would need to add to make the game feel more like WarZ and less like Wild West:

    - Combo system just like WarZ. As it is now, the comboing rarely if ever works in a gun fight, and it feels nothing like it did on WarZ. This makes fights fun and not bland, and actually requires some skill to it other than just aim. It's easily taught, there isn't some secret technique to doing it better than everybody else.
    - Map changes. From what I can tell, the entire map is just one biome. One of the reasons I enjoyed WarZ was because of the variety of different locations/environments I could go to. Snow, nether, gas station, indust, etc. The map is just boring the way it is right now, and I understand it was meant to be used as a Battle Royale map. I for one would prefer a smaller map to make the game more fast paced, but I doubt it would be implemented.
    - More fast paced. Decrease tp times, killing somebody should not put them out of the fight permanently. That's one of the reasons WarZ was fun, it was intense in fights. Smaller map (if possible, if not just change the map to make it more fun/interesting).
     
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  6. VaPoRvOrTeX

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    we dont wont wild west we want warz
     
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    Is there nothing special for MVPS?
     
  8. bob8is8cool

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    Where were you the day WarZ died?
     
  9. JordanZ_PvP

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    WARZ DIED?!?? Nooo

    We Want WarZ!
     
  10. WarSkater

    WarSkater Rob // MC-WarZ Hardcore Crafter

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    I just posted this on another thread, I want to post it here too so people see it more.

    I played yesterday with Carsonn, meltingangel, and shadow. I have to say, Wild West isn't a bad type of gamemode. At all. It's quite fun to be fair with you. However, I do have a couple issues with it.

    1. Fighting - So, yesterday, Carsonn, Shadow and I went to each cartel to get some income. After we all almost get to them, Shadow said TheMafias was there. We teleported in to help him, and then there wound up being 5 teammates, TheMafias included. We were all prepping for the fight, potting up, making sure everythings reloaded, etc. Like Carsonn said, this gamemode doesn't necessarily rely on skill to be good at, it really seems to just take the numbers. The fight ended extremely quickly because Shadow got shot at the same time by the same gun, close range (not really being able to avoid it.) and died instantly. Then the 5 teammates quickly finished off Carsonn, and then it was my turn. I was barely alive, but I kept getting shots in on the enemies, and I couldn't shoot another one at all. I'd shoot one of them, go to shoot another one and get shot by 4 people at four different times. There was no chance I could've won that. It wasn't enjoyable for any of us, aside from the ones that outnumbered. WarZ had a similar issue, but with WarZ, you had a chance to win because of being able to run or get to different areas, get quick kills on enemies by comboing, using grapples to quickly either get a little bit of distance, or to grapple back to the enemy and catch them off guard and kill them.

    To Fix: I'd say add combo'ing, but add a longer delay on it. WarZ combos could literally be near instant if you timed it perfectly. Add it so there's a second before you can shoot your other gun. If WarZ players get an advantage from this (experience with comboing), make it a tad bit longer. Make a tutorial on it, make it so everyone can learn how to do it fairly easily. On WarZ, there was nothing to help anyone learn, aside from teammates or friends or something like that. If you're a new player joining the server with nobody that has experience or knows how to combo, but other players do, it quickly made them uninterested. Hell, if this idea is added, I'll do the video myself and explain everything that's necessary to know.

    2: TPA Timers - While I was playing yesterday, I found out that MVPs can TP in 4 minutes, and white names can TP in an hour (Not sure about the VIP and ELITE timers.) Anyway, I don't think it's necessarily a good thing with the type of gamemode Wild West is. If you're in a clutch situation and you are able to keep avoiding death and running away, it'll be nearly impossible to do it for 4 minutes if a teammate dies quickly. WarZ had a 2 minute timer and people barely had a chance to make it back up, and that was with comboing. When I teleported to Shadow yesterday during our fight, he died before me and I told him to teleport to me. He said "I can't, I TP'ed to Carsonn before." When he tried teleporting back, he still had to wait 45 more minutes. Obviously I understand that this gives white names a taste of what you could have when you're donor, and hopefully is able to want them to buy it, but I think waiting an hour is absurd, even for that kind of argument.

    How To Fix: Just make the timers a little bit faster. Maybe a 2 minute ELITE, 3 minute MVP, 5 minute VIP, 30-40 minute non-donor (Not Sure). I believe the faster white names are able to teleport, the more they'll see that with an even faster time, it could make them do so much more, because having to teleport and then wait an hour before being able to is kind of insane.

    How to Fix [2]: Another idea I had was instead of making the teleport shorter for white names, make it so they can get other ways to get a teleport or something like that. Should make it so maybe you can purchase TP's with in-game currency. Make it semi-expensive so the non-donors can want to grind for the TP. I'm not sure how the currency is on Wild West, and I'm not sure how easy it is to get cash, so if someone that has played Wild West give a proper price for this, appreciative.

    I may keep playing and trying it out. If I find anything I find as an issue or something I dislike, I'll update.
     
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  11. Communications

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    or just put comboing in without delay
     
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    I think all of the WarZ community’s complaints were summed up in WarSkater’s and tallscot’s posts.
     
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  13. WarSkater

    WarSkater Rob // MC-WarZ Hardcore Crafter

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    They want to merge the two servers, they need to take stuff from each. There's no instant comboing, that's been determined, and I dont see them changing that in the near future. Don't make it instant, just add a delay.
     
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    no he doesnt
     
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  16. VaPoRvOrTeX

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    would u rather not just have mcwarz back? warskater ive personally seen u play warz for years dude and u shouldnt just give it up like that man fight for it back like half the community is man. they definitely ****ed up when removing it and i dont know why they didnt implement it back because chickenputty literally had no reason to merge them and no one wanted it.
     
  17. WarSkater

    WarSkater Rob // MC-WarZ Hardcore Crafter

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    Very little if any WarZ players really want it... but it's what the staff want and that's not gonna change. They said they'll bring it back for events, that's what they'll do. It's not worth complaining and making the old WarZ community have worse of a reputation then it already does. Accept it and try to get used to it, I'm sure there's other things to do. I'd prefer to have WarZ back 110% as well as all of the WarZ community, but it's really not worth trying to fight for it.
     
  18. VaPoRvOrTeX

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    ever heard of a strike? in this case the server will just not make enough money to run and will either be forced to take it down or implement warz again cus thats the only time ill donate to the server and im fine with that idea
     
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  19. WarSkater

    WarSkater Rob // MC-WarZ Hardcore Crafter

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    You and whoever wants to join you can do as they please. WarZ had a very small population when it shut down, and I highly doubt it was bringing in more then 100 a week (just stating.) This is a different gamemode, which normally brings players in when it's a newly found gamemode. Let Brawl do their thing, everyone else will do theirs.
     
  20. VaPoRvOrTeX

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    this new gamemode will hurt the server more than it will help. many of the warz players are very pissed off like i am and are just going to straight up quit the server
     
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