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Discussion in 'Suggestions / Ideas' started by Starslash27, Apr 7, 2019.

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  1. Party/Dueling would be useful

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  2. Party/Dueling would be a waste of resources

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  1. Starslash27

    Starslash27 Member

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    Alright so this has been triggering me.
    When I try to have a 1v1 with a friend, people try to swarm to the server instantly. Either their server rebooted, they don’t like the players in the other server, or they clicked the automatic join option. It would be VERY useful to have private servers or a friend duel option so you can battle a friend in the McWar gamemodes 1v1! Gamemode picking would also be helpful to the duels.

    Cheers!
     
  2. 117_John

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    So your thinking something like what they did for kit pvp, with a /challenge or /duel option or something where you can choose the map and game mode for a select few of you. I think that could be interesting, but would it really be worth it for Brawl to do this? I don't see how it would make Brawl draw more players. A practice range might draw more players, but if Brawl were to do a private duel thing for war, I think it should be some sort of party command. That way you could do something like /party play (map, gamemode) and then it could be just 2 of you or a group of friends.
     
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  3. Starslash27

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    I agree with you. Party commands would be great aswell! And ye it probably would not attract new players. It would be really useful for existing members, though
     
  4. Ice_Bear1

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    Ice Bear actually thinks this will indirectly help new players as it will keep pros occupied with 1v1s and prevent them from ruining the gameplay of new players. Ice Bear says it also can act as training for new players i.e. a Pro player teaching a new player in a 1v1. Ice Bear thinks that 1v1s should not count towards your stats. Ice Bear is also quite tired of trying to 1v1 with a random player joining on and ruining it.
     
  5. MoistMayonnaise

    MoistMayonnaise Highly Established Member

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    There used to be a guns ffa arena and 1v1 queue on the Kitbrawl part of the server. It was removed recently due to lack of use, do you think it would be worth bringing back? Also maybe then we can change the gun 1v1 maps and set them as some war maps with the help of war and kit staff?
     
  6. SuperBen4

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    Okay, first of all if this is an idea relevant to MC-War only (which it seems to be, but correct me if I'm wrong) make sure to post it under the MC-War section of the forums. Not really a big deal but it helps keep things in places where they're relevant to everyone looking there as much as possible.

    Now in response to your idea, I understand where you're coming from, but I do not support this idea.

    I'm going to break my response up into replying to each of the people who replied to this thread.

    @Starslash27 - First of all, simply due to the fact that War has such a small amount of players a lot of the time, this is very inconvenient for people other than the small amount of players who want to 1v1. The portion of the playerbase that actually wants to 1v1 is very small compared to the portion that just wants to play the game. If there are 4 players on, and 2 of them decide they want to 1v1 and leave the other 2, that makes the game significantly less enjoyable for those people. This is even the case with up to 14 players, if 2 of them leave, the gameplay becomes much slower, more boring and less enjoyable for the others who are left there. I think simply due to the playercount being constantly so small this is not a good idea. If there was a much larger and more consistent playerbase I wouldn't be opposed to this.

    @117_John - I agree with you. This idea does not do anything towards bringing new players into the game. I don't think it's worthwhile to do this at the moment. I think a practice range would be good, but the problem with this is that players wouldn't get much time to use this since lobby times are so short (and likely will become shorter in the future), and adding it as an option for people to drop out of a game to test a gun brings me back to my earlier point about a few players leaving and it significantly decreasing enjoyment of others.

    @Ice_Bear1 - I don't think that this will help new players at all. Again I see what you mean but I don't think that will be the case. If a new player joins, and there are 2 people having a 1v1, and they can't join in, that will likely make them not really want to try this server again since they aren't welcome/can't even play. If a pro were to 'teach' a new player how to play in a 1v1 it will likely turn into the pro just farming the noob. This feature would give more opportunity for pros to farm stats from playing against noobs, whereas, as it is if someone joins and sees that happening (which they wouldn't be able to do in a private 1v1/party server) they can join the game and try to balance it out a bit more.

    @HurricaneRita - I think this would have just as little use as the Gun 1v1 Arena in kit. I feel as though the target for this idea is too small and if anything has a negative impact on the rest of the community.
    EDIT: Sorry for the tag, I didn't have much to say in response to you and probably didn't need to tag you, hope you don't mind.

    Slightly unrelated but sort of relevant. I don't think it's fair to you to get 'triggered' by other people joining the server when you try to have a 1v1. They are able to join any server they want. That being said you can kindly ask them to leave, but they can choose whether or not to do so. Additionally, it's definitely not a player's fault if they switch servers because of a reboot. That is perfectly fine and not a reasonable cause for anger.

    Basically the main thing is that this idea, as far as I can see, does nothing to benefit new players and targets a group of people which is too small. Additionally due to the playercount of War this could only contribute to the demise of the game further by preventing people from playing a more enjoyable game since more players = more fun (in my opinion). I also don't think it will be used enough to be worthwhile.
     
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  7. Eater

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    The server needs to bring regular updates out first that's the main priority...
     
  8. Starslash27

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    Thanks for the responses. I agree that it could bring down the member count on public servers. Adding the feature would have many ups and downs. Although, if the biggest concern is people, I can help with marketing!

    This feature would be a huge one for gameplay, and even though it seems like a minor feature at first, it would change member counts throughout servers, playthrough, and many other things. I can understand it from both angles on whether it would be good or not.
     
  9. SuperBen4

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    I don't know if the ups are enough to make this suggestion work but we'll be sure to investigate other opinions. This sentence "I agree that it could bring down the member count on public servers" is a huge problem though. Since the count is already so small, we don't want to do ANYTHING that will do even more damage, or even has the potential to do more damage. Particularly adding something which actually encourages people to 1v1 instead of playing with the majority of players.

    I fail to see how this is 'a huge feature for gameplay' or how it will change member counts. It won't make any significant difference. As I said, the group of player which this is tailored to (the ones who want to 1v1) is so much smaller than the group who don't care and just want to play the game with as many players as possible. Since these ideas directly clash, this suggestion could potentially damage the portion of the community (the larger part) who just want to play with more people.

    I'm interested to see a positive point if you have one though, so if you think any of my points are bad/invalid or have a counter-point you can see, please do reply with that so I can understand your side a bit better.
     
  10. Starslash27

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    I get what you mean SuperBen, by affecting gameplay I mean affect it in terms of fewer people in public servers.
     
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