Why we should have a ban reset

I can see having a big ban wipe, with exceptions. Why should we unban Triple when he continues to alt?

 

A ban wipe should happen, with exceptions for people who continue to alt. They would've been unbanned a long time ago if they just stopped alting.

 

You forgot to mention that there was some active IP's in that list that could of been used against the person. Also not to mention Triple is scamming accounts, bragging out the horrible stuff hes doing to people, and using personal information against certain individuals. Tyler? Why not, hes a nice guy.

 

As I stated before, I'm a firm supporter of 2+ bans to get someone permbanned. If rules were changed to be more lenient to be unbanned, getting banned should be a more stricter.

 

Imo, this isn't a bad system: the banned player is
- Perm-muted until an appeal process comes through
- Is only allowed to play on one account, if they are caught on another account then they are re-banned; they can be allowed more accounts once another appeal process is complete for them
- closely surveilled by staff following the initial unban (we have a big warz staff team now)
- any "bannable" offence committed on the sole account they are allowed during that period will result in a re-perm ban. Once alts are lifted through an appeal, the same follows for a few months until the player can start being treated as a regular again

With this staff team, I don't see a huge issue (once other jmods become mod, of course) with this. But then again, Socool's point on brawl as a network needs consideration. It would be difficult to do a warz only ban reset when there are perm banned players on other game modes.

 

And the majority of those perm banned players cheated once more and got banned again.

This is literally the only positive of a ban reset, but it doesn't outweigh the harm it does whatsoever.

"They cheat because they got banned, so if we unban them, they won't cheat!"
1) Triple threatened to swat my university no more than three days ago on one of his alts, along with threatening to boot others.
2) Triple is banned for DoX.

It is not stupid WHATSOEVER to perm ban a player for DoXing others. That should never be tolerated and the only reason he's still perm banned today is because he hasn't been able to go a SINGLE DAY without alting. He's been told multiple times to go at least 6 months to a year without alting and he's never been able to do it. It's his own fault he's still banned. That's the end of it.

You're making a claim that has been proven wrong on several different occasions.

If they "regretted" what they did in the past, both of these players wouldn't have made swat threats (yes, Kyle threatened to swat somebody literally his FIRST DAY BACK) in public chat within the last month. Both of these players wouldn't have cheated on alts within the last month. You're making them out to be victims when they are literally the opposite. They're a cancer in the community and both of them deserve to remain blacklisted.

"Since they're just gonna alt anyway, it's best to just unban them"
This is an incredibly stupid mindset.

At the moment, it takes THREE banned accounts to get a player perm-banned. That's three separate chances for a player to stop cheating. If somebody manages to get themselves perm banned, they should not have any chance of getting unbanned unless they wait a year for appeal (without alting). There's already been a ban reset. The majority of people who got unbanned went straight back to cheating and got themselves banned again. Nothing's changed. A ban reset will not and should never happen, especially for the players you listed because right now your argument is looking heavily biased.

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- work on a new ban protocol
- fine tune it
- wipe bans
- re-ban constant rule breakers

happiness

find a way to get rid of xrayers, i dont want to get on this game when i get xrayed every time i log in.

 

Separate 10- into a 3-5 and 5-10 and make the 3-5 only 2 months on all of the criteria.

 

Ok for a start, the initial ban reset wasn't done to bring more money in, but was because there were thousands of accounts banned on Brawl for reasons that were old, invalid, or improper. It was exactly what brawl needed at the time as it wiped the slate clean.

What we are talking about doing here is catering for around 5 WarZ players who couldn't control their actions which resulted in them being perm-banned from the network. Now, in my opinion I do understand why they all want to come back right now with the high attention to WarZ and an active playerbase which is why I pushed for a ban wipe when coming back.

However, when I see Triple and Tyler alting everyday cheating against players (including me on an alt) it kind of angers me. The fact that as a community were collectively bringing back a gamemode that they want to be a part of, but because they're not allowed to join in due to their own poor choices, they decide to try and ruin it for everyone really baffles me when they're trying to rejoin it.

To any perm banned players that read this, or anyone that does speak to them and decides to tell them. Stop hacking or playing on ALTs, and if you're going to play (which is in the staff team will prevent as much as possible) at least have the decency to allow new players a good experience on the server. What I would fully recommend though is you just appeal... All it has to be is that you made some seriously bad decisions and want to be a positive part of the community again. To me that speaks volumes and as long as we can see that you're trying to change, that's when we can do our best to compromise as much as we physically are able to.


Edit: Also wanted to add a word of advice. Don't associate yourselves with the perm banned players, you'll most likely end up in the same boat.

 

There should not be a ban wipe. There’s only a couple players who actively play WarZ who wants it to be like this, the ones banned and including supporters of these people. You can talk about the banned players as nice persons and players who usually does not hack. But at the end of the day they continue to cheat and destroy new players coming to the game. On the other hand I can see people who would not hack if they were unbanned, but has still damaged the community. There should definitely not be a ban wipe and the ones who you are referring to @Murphay needs to make an appeal and wait 6 months.

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anyone thats gonna still cheat after being unbanned is already cheating on alts lol, some booty cheek raid player got me banned for xray even though i only had 90 gold after like 2 hours, woww xrayyyyy

 

I think that a ban reset would work. It will filter out those who continue to cheat which idk if it will be easy to ban, but i do support an unban wave, but possibly only for certain people who have been banned prior to a certain date.

 

Sidenote, it wasn't Triple who threatened to swat my university, it was Tanner. The point remains, however. If he wants to get unbanned he needs to go at the very least 8 months without alting. Nekron should not be unbanned at all (for a year at the very least).

 

A ban wipe is harder than you all think. When they did the ban wipe back in 2016/17 can’t remember they also had to clear all the history of every player which were important information regarding staff applications. A ban wipe would also result in clearing all the loot on the server. That’s because all the hackers that fought people and got all their loot by hacking would of have it right now if there would of been a ban wipe. Of course they all still have these accounts! Which means they will be using gear that we’re hacked on against other players! And we’ve came really far already at MC-WarZ 1 & 4 loot wise which means resetting all the accounts, history and loot would have a really bad effect on the community.

 

Triple should never be unbanned.

 

I remember so clearly, I was there. He booted me off to, then he booted my hotspot also and I do not have a VPN, he's dangerous for our community.