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If you really want Raid to thrive like McPvP

Discussion in 'Raid' started by LaryLongDong, Feb 18, 2020.

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How accurate is this?

  1. Perfect

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  2. Good

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  3. Fair

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  1. LaryLongDong

    LaryLongDong Member

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    Ive been really wanting to get back into raid lately but, it's dead. 8 players on this server is just sad.

    As most of us know, Raid died with the transition from McPvP to Brawl. It wasn't all due to the loss of interest in raid and I will try to simplify a few of my opinions. I tried putting these major changes that had loss of players in chronological order.

    1. Hunger Games rebranded to "hardcore games" this was unavoidable due to a cease and desist letter for the name use "Hunger Games" which was a primary search result.
    When servers were full, players started trying other game modes such as raid.

    Players on hunger games was 500-1300 CONSISTENTLY at the time.
    Players on RAID was 75-120 CONSISTENTLY on 2 seperate servers.

    2. Minecraft EULA. Sure EULA was introduced, many other servers survived, "hcklewk?" (Original MCPVP owner) Decided he wasn't going to make as much money throught the game and was losing money paying coders/admin staff.

    -eula side note, after EULA was introduced HG servers rotated kits weekly so all players had a chance to use them before buying them.
    Raid could have implemented points for winning games to allow players to purchase seasonal or time limited warps vs monthly packages as a fix.
    Players during EULA issue: 60 CONSISTENTLY on both raid servers. 350-900 consistently on HG.


    3. Brawl buys McPvP. After purchasing McPvP, many players transitioned. Into brawl, and we'll Brawl took the idea and pooped on it.
    3a. Trackers were made with emeralds, iron. No. what is this crap? Took a hardcore server and made it easy... A hardcore server isn't supposed to be easy..
    3b. Started koths which brought players back on friday-sunday maybe 20 or so. Why not have daily koths if it is so efficient.

    Player count jumped from 45 consistently on both servers to 60 after brawl bought MCPVP.

    One month into the map reset, it dropped to 30
    Two months into reset, playerb was at 15 due to hackers.

    At this point the server had no active admins and became a chaotic server full of hackers. I would know I was one of them. If you can't beat them you're going to join them.

    If the server wants to truthfully revive itself. It needs to go back to it's roots. I understand this may not be an economical move for brawl, but with MC coming back as seen in YouTube views and content it's possible to profit still especially with the nether update coming.

    -Bring the trackers back to obsidian, gold, and diamond.
    -Implement a randomized and specific /1v1 for players looking for 1v1's
    -get rid of this big ugly spawn you have.
    -maybe bring back HG how it was in 1.2.5?
    Oh and try not being a sellout like hcklewk.

    Remkit, Studies, PvPVeract, stimpyPvp, bball0928, and many others would be disappointed with the way you've killed this game mode.
     
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  2. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    HG isn't coming back on Brawl, or, honestly, on any server. BrawlHG was pretty good while it lasted but the very-much-upper staff team gave up on it a long time ago :frowning:
     
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  3. Jeenss

    Jeenss Ex-Raid Mod

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    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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  5. CoCaptainBlue

    CoCaptainBlue Well-Known Member

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    I dissagre with 1v1's becasue imo this is raid. The only thing that should be setting 1v1 is a moral. One which raid used to have.

    The spawn was built by team skid, From community polls on discord we reached a conclusion that the community wanted a flat type spawn.

    Trackers can still be made out of diamond, obsidian and gold. I take it you want to eliminate the alternative iron , emerald and gold tracker type?

    Sadly I belive staff saw the HG community was not active, people were not playing and there was no point in having a dead gamemode running. Im not 100% on tis as I was not staff at that time.
     
  6. LaryLongDong

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    Okay, I agree with you on the 1v1's, moral would be a better route for all players as a way to spike competitive interest.

    And for the trackers, yes.
    Personally, I understand it allows players to track further with less space. But when I first logged on and tried them for a few weeks I was pissed knowing how easy tracking became.
    Teams used to have designated people track because others couldn't do it and would stay too long getting the warp raided. It was SO competitive.
     
  7. Bartra

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    There's been a huge loss of interest in playing Raid, do not deny that.

    The name change shouldn't be blamed, it wasn't a gamemode which could survive much longer. It's sad to say that, but it is true.
    I've got to admit, when KitPvP and HG were full, players actually would join Raid or CTF and get to know them better.

    What do you mean by that? You're not telling them to get rusty junk and throw it on Brawl once again, are ya? We need brand new stuff!
    Coming up with new ideas for Raid ought to be enough to approach new type of players on Brawl. Also, better advertisement. :grimacing:
     
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  8. 360mod

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    Too late man, Brawl is doing their own thing, ruining the server even more and more, its way past of revive.
    Main reasons i think are lack of motivation to revive it, lack of ideas from staff, lack of MAKING THE COMMUNITY IDEAS HAPPEN.
    Its just too late and me and yall just have to accept it fr :grinning: mcpvp gone, move on!
     
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  9. AirstrikeXD

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    sad but true isn't it lol
     
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  10. CoCaptainBlue

    CoCaptainBlue Well-Known Member

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    We do make community ideas happen. For example team cap was suggested by a community member and we thought it was needed. So we added it.
     
  11. 360mod

    360mod Member

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    Very big and good change for the server, team cap changes everything, now the server is very much better and there is 50 players consistantly playing again! Good job staff!
     
  12. CoCaptainBlue

    CoCaptainBlue Well-Known Member

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    It was only an example.

    But that is what the servern eeded. The problem is we cannot stop people from making bigger teams and rotating the players around.

    Here is a question. I have been telling good people that your team is good and that they should join. You should make another "power team" and fight koths?
     
  13. 360mod

    360mod Member

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    I make my own decision and choose if i want to build a team or not :grinning:

    I don't really listen what Jmods wants me to do :3

    Anyhow, tell me a way to build a power team, when literally there is 10 active players who has their own teams already ;D

    I know i could try to get people from teams to my team, but they won't come since they got good position in their team, even tho i do not need a power team behind me, i like playing pretty much solo when the player count is under 10 most of the time.

    So the point is, give me more players that I can build a team to compete in koths and events.
    Till this point I have handled Breach by my self, but Mel0n is different, they are actually good players.
     
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  14. TheMel0n

    TheMel0n 8 Year McPvPer

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    Most of those people are ****bags. And iron trackers doesn’t make the game easier. What would you rather loose 1 diamond block and 36 gold or 1 emerald block and 2+ stacks iron+36gold. (Temptracker wise) and getting enough iron for a entire tracker is way to much work, obby trackers are way easier to get. I don’t really think you know how to track that well. (X-ray ban lol)

    1v1 p4
     
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  15. Carnotauros

    Carnotauros Raid & Events Manager

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    Literally everything that was added at SOTM was suggested by the community.
     
  16. BrosBeforeHoes_

    BrosBeforeHoes_ Well-Known Member

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    I'm disappointed with life in general
     
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  17. Necromancer51572

    Necromancer51572 Team Mystic

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    You, my friend, have never had to choose to mine up vanillas from temps every time you finish using them, or go through a dub of obby in like two weeks.

    Also, you can literally place an iron tracker, use it, and mine it up. The set up and rear down process takes only a few minutes tops.
     
  18. BrosBeforeHoes_

    BrosBeforeHoes_ Well-Known Member

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    Wow so smart!!!
     
  19. AirstrikeXD

    AirstrikeXD Well-Known Member

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    does anyone besides randoms play raid anymore even.. ? lol
     
  20. 360mod

    360mod Member

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    Yes? :grinning:

    Why are you this active in forums if you are perm banned lol.
     
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