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Idea Zones and Item changes

Discussion in 'MC-WarZ' started by Greedy_Bee, Jun 2, 2014.

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  1. Greedy_Bee

    Greedy_Bee Well-Known Member

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    So, i'm not sure how many of you guys no-lifed the new map, but me, Xeno, Reaky, Blake, and Net all pretty much did, ~12 hours straight, and during this, we had some discussion on the new map, and I think most of our ideas are relevant and good enough to be considered here.

    1. Zones and spawns:

    Now it may be because of the map being considerably smaller than our last one, but it's ridiculous with some of the zones. In the last map, there were two zone 6's, both of which relatively hard to get to, in the new map, I've been informed, that there's SEVEN, and some being ridiculously close to the spawns. There's absolutely no zone progression, you can get a diamond sword within the first couple of minutes, if you loot enough at the "new prison", or what looks like it. The old map, and the one before that, everything felt natural as you went through the map, zones would get higher, and higher, until you reached the nether, which made it feel like a trip, with stops, ending up at the final part of the map. So, the solution is simple, tone the zones down, make it so the "nether", now Alcatraz, and the snow lodge, are the only zone 6's, the others being 3-5.

    2. Item spawning:

    Now, this kind of relates to the zones, but overall not really. As we played, and we actually did try to go noob hunting after a little, it was actually hard to find leather tunic scrubs, but insanely, insanely easy to find full iron scrubs. I kid you not, we saw more iron than leather even at sand town. Not even half way into the 12 hours, Xeno had a stack, a STACK, of parachutes, I kid you not, I had 12, and one thing we didn't have, was...
    Food and ammo. I'm sorry but, the item spawn rates are way out of whack, you can get full iron quick as hell, along with tier 3, but you can't get enough food, in fact we almost starved a few times. So, i'm pretty sure that there's a way to edit the plugin to kinda have the same spawn rate as the old map, again, it felt fine, where everyone started off the same, and slowly progressed, it was a big deal to see a full iron near spawn points, now it's nothing, it honestly feels like Kit PvP.

    3. SMGs

    Now, i'll admit, yes these are cool, they add a new tier, yay, but, these damn things have some of the same problems as the SMGs on mc-war.
    A. They're pretty much miniguns
    B. They obliterate people
    C. They really don't balance out, they're all very similar...

    I don't even want to hear the argument of "dey uze amhoe faszzzzttttd!!!!2!", because while they do, you can take out a full iron with EIGHT shots of the tier THREE, not even the P90, the UMP. Simple solution, reduce the damn accuracy and damage, there's no way that a gun that shoots that fast, is gonna have amazing accuracy, even when you're zooming in, every couple of bullets just have one that goes a little off to the side, snipers are meant for sniping, not Sub Machine Guns.


    At the moment, that's pretty much all I can flesh out enough to even be considered here, and no, i'm not talking about the map, and there's a reason why.
    To the people who say "ITZ 2 SMALLLLLLL", that's because the servers were full, cramming 60 players into one map without it seeming small, is a little hard. We had a fine time and actually enjoyed the new map after some of the players left and it had ~25 people on, until the Japs showed up at snow... for the 1337th time in a row... with their 20 million alts... that's a whole other rant for a whole other day.

    Anyways, let me know what you guys think below, please don't flame, yada yada fun stuff.
    -Greedy
     
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  2. Usp45

    Usp45 Well-Known Member

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    I timed it, from one of the spawns, you can get to a zone 5 town in 3 minutes and 57 seconds.
    That, my friends, is what I call bull**** :v
     
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  3. gamemaster800

    gamemaster800 Well-Known Member

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    Well it has been confirmed that there will be some zone changes. The power plant area is a zone 5 which is pretty crazy on its self.
     
  4. zachdost1234

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    I agree w/ the ammo, food is easy since it drops from zombies but overall good. Ammo needs buff for sure..
     
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    Thanks for creating a proper idea post instead of some flame war post :grinning:
    I'm just going to address your points with some bullet points instead of some fancy paragraph.

    1. I've made a thread for zone ideas, so please post your ideas here: https://www.brawl.com/threads/16491/

    2.
    • You should be able to find leather noobs after we tweak the zones.
    • I accidentally turned the rarity of parachutes from 1 to 50 (more common). This has been fixed since then, it's rarity is 4 now.
    • We didn't change spawn rates besides for adding the new items. But, none of these items are in the "food" category, so you should still be able to find the same amount of food as last map. 11 hours ago I made it so zombies have a 30% chance of dropping food, maybe that will take care of food rarity.

    3. Here are some stats about rifles and SMGs:
    • Rifles have 0.15 bullets/second and SMGs have 0.1 bullets/second.
    • SMGs do half the damage of their corresponding rifle tier.
      • Example: AK-47 (IV) does 8 damage and P90 (IV) does 4 damage.
    • Rifles shoot a distance of 200 blocks and SMGs shoot 76 blocks. (Doesn't really matter)
    • Rifles bullet speed is 4.25 and SMGs are 4.4.
    With that said, SMGs appear to be balanced statistic wise to rifles. Maybe their knockback or "newness" makes them seem overpowered?​
     
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  6. Greedy_Bee

    Greedy_Bee Well-Known Member

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    Did the SMGs get a small damage debuff between the first few hours of launch, and now?
    Because if I recall the kill I was referencing when making this, was done in the first few, if they have been changed then that's my bad, I haven't been on WarZ for about a day.
     
  7. bob8is8cool

    bob8is8cool Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you on a lot of this.

    1. The zones are messed up but that's being fixed.

    2. No Offense, but going down to spawn camp noob asked for a food withdraw. You're using a lot of food to travel and to fight, but you don't gain much off the noobs you kill. I find it I am fine with food when I stay up North.

    3. I agree with this also. I tried to fish someone once with all tier 4 and they only had a p90. I ran into the room and died almost instantly because they just sprayed that SMG. They'll probably be nerfed soon.
     
  8. zachdost1234

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    In two hours my team and I were sitting on four and a half stacks of pasta and don't get me started on beans...
     
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  9. PhantomRider22

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    They have already changed so much.. I think that right now, we should see how we go...
     
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