On the SMG reception: why I think this is happening

I swear i'm about to make a thread about this kind of stuff. Please explain, how a diseased community, can work together, to make a difference? You can't actually train a runner for the Olympics, if he has a disease in his knees, you need to get rid of that disease first. He's out of shape to do what he normally would, because of an obstacle, the community at the moment, if you couldn't tell, from all the threads, and from all the chat, is trashy.

Honestly, the SMGs don't suck, they're just all pretty much a clone of each other, if you took away the textures, and just left me with the gun shooting, no name, I could honestly not tell you if I was shooting a P90 or a UMP-45.

 

Pretty sure they have the exact same firerate.
Having proof from admins about the firerate is quite useful v:
Honestly I like the SMGs more than most of the automatic weapons.
Because of their high firerate and good damage, they're quite usable.
I understand that the M10 and PP-90M1 do the same damage as the M16 and M4, but they also do the same damage as the Lamentation and minigun.
Their high firerate makes them superior to the M4 and M16. Their weakness, bad accuracy, is both countered by the amazing hip accuracy and the fact that you have your pistol for medium range combat. In addition, the P90 could probably hit out to medium range because its aimed accuracy is pretty good.
SMGs are like a minigun to be honest. The minigun has a higher RoF technically (but not really) since it fires 2 bullets per shot like a shotgun, but the SMGs have better accuracy in return and some even do more damage. For instance, the UMP-45 could probably counter the Skullcrusher. In a 1v1 at close quarters, the UMP-45 would definitely and without a doubt would win. At medium range, the high stopping power and good accuracy, as well as the high firerate would also cause the UMP-45 to win. In addition, the SMGs are among the only weapons that can effectively counter the minigun at close range.

I don't understand why people say the SMGs suck, they're all good.
However, to be honest, the UMP-45, the 3rd SMG, is the best one, which makes no sense. (then again it's like the Model for shotguns)

One more thing -
The SMGs have the same reload times as most automatic weapons, varying from 3-4 seconds. That really isn't a slow reload time.
I find myself barely using the Skullcrusher and minigun now, in favor of the SMGs which in my opinion are superior.

 

People be like:
"We want SMGs!"
And then they got them they be like:
"SMGs suck!"

-_-

 

I feel that half the people who say the SMGs are bad tried them twice, then gave up on them. It takes time to get used to a new play style. I feel that people are trying to use their tactics for autos and snipers with the SMGs, which does not work out well in the end. They need to understand the use of the SMG, figure its strengths, and overcome its weaknesses. When you learn the weapon and play style, you have one beast of a weapon.

What I say to these people: give the SMGs another chance. Figure out a new play style when using them. Challenge yourself with overcoming the learning curve. Over time, you will think twice about the SMGs.
(I know that some people use SMG's like autos when I see someone in a large group of his/her team, stafe jumping, and trying to shoot at me at medium range).

 

I enjoy the SMGs very much. I haven't noticed anyone who has said "SMGs suck" though. They added another layer to MC-war and I'm glad the update added them

 

In the words of @ZapCrusher , people think they suck because they can't 1 shot someone from 50 blocks.

 

I think they're fine though I prefer the minigun I just wish they had Mw3 ammo capacities

Mc-war: mp7(20) pp90m1(50)

Mw3: mp7(40) pp90m1(36)

 

Most of the time, here's what I see.

Unprestige Players: OMG Mac10 sucks so all smgs must suck too!

Prestige Players: SMGs suck I'm going back to my crossbow

The SMGs are quite deadly If used correctly, people just don't give them a chance.

 

But then again I could say the same to l118a and barret, m4a1 and ak47 and many others if you took away the texture and name.
I think the smg's are generally pretty sucky with the exception of mac-10 and my favourite gun of all time, mp7 (this is just my opinion though)

 

Lol so not true.
PP90m1 with a 36 round magazine? Nope. The helical magazine that it's famous for holds around 60 bullets. And the MP7 doesn't fire a 40 round magazine. The conventional MP7 magazine holds about 30 rounds.
For proof:

 

~ revised: MW3 capacity

 

Honestly, compared to the 3 round burst guns, smgs aren't that great in my opinion.

 

You shouldn't force yourself to use weapons you hate. If you don't like SMGs, you should probably stay away from them then.
However, SMGs are like miniguns that have magazines and do slightly less damage.

 

The SMG's are designated for cqc. People on mc war are used to camping half way across the map with an AR or with a sniper picking people off without having to worry too much about being killed. However, the smgs are only for close quarters combat. I admit myself the smgs are hard to use at first because I camp a lot. But as I began rushing more, the smh role was great. If you learn to rush and avoid too much hp loss, the smgs will favor you. However if you just camp and expect to get kills, the smgs are not for you. They are for swift movement gamemodes like ctf and ffa. It also depends on the map. On maps like hijacked, shipment, pipeline, the smg role is perfect.