Let's talk about - Raygun, Minigun and C-Bow

I really liked the old days better. At least, there were less donors.

 

You are right Credo...

I think that's not okay. Every player wants to be respected. Also Donators.

 

You took out of my mouth what i have been trying to say for 2 months......

 

there are so many of these types of threads... the sad thing is that they are ALL true :V
the defenition of going ham: spamming mini/cbow/skull/dissa whilst you camp with superarmor at the same spot with other people who 'try to go ham'... i swear to god... one more 'going ham' video and i'l try and make a vid of me double nuking using a weak gun (spas12 *cough cough*)

what i try to do... is just limit using op guns.. sure a raygun every few infs is fine.. but i try to use other guns... typhoid, skull, moddel, iso etc... also about the 100+ people being important n such, i try to be more helpful then 'skilled' . this way the new community can see that being helpful and friendly is more important then actually nuking...

also about the rolemodel thing.. i saw a lvl 24 person with mvp and superarmor every match spamming the cbow/mini every round... everytime he got killed he raged like...
i cannot even describe what the community is turning into... it just frustrates me...

 

I have never nuked with Raygun nor CBow/Mini :v
I have so little skill the CBow brings me up to normal level.

 

i only nuked once with cbow .-. and that was even difficult for me :V

 

Some players, as you have mentioned, use the donor weapons to quickly get their stats up or easily complete achievements (triple+ nuke as an example), but I do not. I use the donor weapons because they are different. I use them for the fun of it, not for the stats. They add variety to the game for me. If I am using the mini gun however, I will not consider myself to be "incredibly skilled" if I nuke in 40 seconds of a match. A lot of people can do that with this weapon if they really try.
Some people like to use the donor weapons to boost stats, however. It is their personal choice to do that. I respect them for their decision, even if I do not think highly of it. I might completely disagree with what they think, but I have no right to tell them wrong. This is how I feel on the matter, at least, and it is my opinion. That is why you never see me say "*gun* noob" ever as well.
One more point. Even if we use the lower tiered weapons and do extremely well with them, that does not mean a whole bunch of people will join us. Even if some of the best players in war all use the l118a or a weapon like that, it will not mean that all the 60+ players will too. It might influence them slightly (or more), but it might not win them over completely.
That is how I feel however, and it is MY personal opinion.

 

As Tim said above, McWar 2.0 is supposedly coming out in like 2 weeks. I don't know if this is true, because they leaked out that McWar 2.0 was coming out before Christmas, on New years, in January, now this time. But I'm betting that it's coming.

Anyways, I have to agree with you on this. The minigun is a bit pay to win right now if you have scavenger with it. Same with the ray gun with scav on infect.

 

Dude wtf
teh you es pee taks no skill 2 nooke wit
it has autoaim an shots thru wallz
it use all teh hax
Personally I don't think the community is as bad as everyone says, people just like complaining about something.

 

I agree with the mini part only. In my opinion ray and cbow are fine, especially cbow which i find the easiest gun to dodge. Ray maybe a 1 hit kill in infect but in tdm and other gamemodes it takes several shots to kill one person. Mini, however, is really over powered. I think it should be nerfed...

 

This man speaks the truth
I have worked so hard trying to get to 100+ without donor guns, and now I don't feel good about it because everyone has it because of the crossbow and other op donor guns.

1. The crossbow basicly breaks every map, as you can't just shoot over people, kill afks, and take out huge crowds easily.

2. The ray is extremely op. Think of the law but with super speed on infect. If you have ever tried to kill people on an infect match when some doosh has the ray it isn't fair as you can't do anything

3. The mini gun is op because of the no recoil bug, it was mainly designed to spray a corner down with no mobility.
I think it would be like this if they fixed recoil.

 

I agree that the mini gun is op. However if they nerfed crossbow and ray because it was "too op" then it wouldn't be bought as much as it is being bought right now. Tons of people are buying ray and crossbow which is getting the server money. We also have to think of it financially for the server not just about it in game. Lets say i don't have any donor guns and want to buy ray. If its how it is i would love to buy it because its a good gun, but if it was nerfed i wouldn't buy it because it then wouldn't be worth what it costs. Bringing the cost down isn't an option because more money is preferred over less. So if its not worth what it costs then no one is going to buy it. I hope you kind off understand what i mean and i hope i explained myself fully.

 

I agree with onik completely. Donor guns are way to OP and literally break the game. For new players, it's a way to level up real quick because u pay $5 and u can mop up on ffa and get a level or two compared to about 5-7 kills per match. This limits their MC-War experience and it ruins the feeling of accomplishment of getting prestige when u bought the minigun to get more kills faster. And for level 60+ and 100+ players, must you use a donor gun on tdm and ctf? You should have the skill to use any gun well enough to not have to pay to win at this level. For example: I'm only able to get 9-13 kills on ffa with the lem cuz there's some high level idiot running around with the minigun and scavenger and wins in 45 seconds. I'm not even going to dwell on the topic of infect, because we all know how it goes down: He with the ray/mini + scav while out of the map always wins. I am really dissapointed in people who only use donor guns because they have them. I know people who've won ffa with the l118a and still use the mini on tdm and ruins it for everyone. The flame and LAW aren't too much of a problem, cuz the law got nerfed hard. The flame though is now really annoying since it got buffed to shoot firecharges instead of low-range snowballs. The cbow, on the other hand, is WAY too op. Sure, it takes some of skill to use, but it's the only gun that you can use to shoot over walls and kill someone behind it. Plus, if you shoot someone with it and don't kill someone, they have 3 seconds to live. I really want people to do what onik asks. Don't give me hate about this, cuz it's true and you know it.

 

The server is getting lots of money, yes. But the hole experience is getting ruined aswell. And the server will have to find other ways to get money soon anyways because of the EULA.

I only use scavenger(its the only donor item ive got) so I cant really turn it off.

 

You're right the server will need to find other ways to get money, i have nothing to reply with to that. Also, we are talking about ray gun, cbow and minigun not scav...