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This is why people think mc-war is no fun anymore (no hate to coders)

Discussion in 'Ideas' started by 505, Mar 2, 2015.

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Do you feel my pain?

  1. Yes, please save automatics

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  2. No, wut u talkin bout boi? Use iso all the time like me!

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  1. 505

    505 Well-Known Member

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    So lets face it, you all have used a good fully automatic weapon for a bit and thought "this gun sucks". Main reason isn't the damage being lower than it should be or that its extremely inaccurate (although there are some cases of these) its that there is a very low chance you can be competitive with a high damage/low firerate weapon in this game. If you wish there was a dislike button again at this point, just hear me out. The problem is a combination of ridiculous bullet knockback and movement speed decrease due to ADS. Players gravitate towards sniper rifles, shotguns, and the python because bullet knockback is never a problem. You can confidently hip fire (pistols and shotguns), avoiding a severe decrease in movement speed. In the case of sniper rifles, just a quick right, left, right with your mouse buttons and you've executed a seamless kill without fear of bullet knockback decreasing your accuracy or your movement speed slowing long enough for new players to pick you off with ease. There are very few guns you can reasonably use without coming to a near stop and compensating for the fact that your enemy is flying meters above the landscape after your first shot. I believe that in order to give automatic weapons the edge they need to come into contact with an iso and not be outmatched (by a LOT) we should increase the hip accuracy to slightly less or exactly that of the aim accuracy for most fully automatic weapons so you don't turn into a giant neon "SHOOT ME NOW THAT I CANT STRAFE!" sign, or simply remove ALTOGETHER the bullet knockback because it doesn't benefit any player under 90% of normal circumstances. I'm not trying to make automatic weapons #omgsooptomlgformeplznerf I'm just trying to get them on the same level as more popular guns doing higher damage and therefore decreasing accuracy issues due to your character being Captain America and being thrown 50 feet instead of taking a hit.


    (I love Captain America don't hate me)
     
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    #1 505, Mar 2, 2015
  2. Mokolee

    Mokolee Well-Known Member

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    I actually have some fun with the bullet knockback. Especially the Model. Definitely the Model.
     
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    #2 Mokolee, Mar 2, 2015
  3. 505

    505 Well-Known Member

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    theres an exception to everything :stuck_out_tongue: thats definitely entertaining
     
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    #3 505, Mar 2, 2015
  4. NathanDrake

    NathanDrake Well-Known Member

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    @Myortvye or any of the other coders should completely remove recoil until it is fixed.
     
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    #4 NathanDrake, Mar 2, 2015
  5. onepunchmeme

    onepunchmeme Well-Known Member

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    Not trying to advertise, but you should look at Mineplex's Minestrike. Balanced damage values for all guns, SMGs make sense, you can shoot and strafe, and snipers use pumpkin heads for some cool scope effects. The grenades, fkashbangs, and molotovs are actually useful as well. Headshots are also functional. I dunno, I guess we need more coders because a single guy can't handle everything.
     
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    #5 onepunchmeme, Mar 2, 2015
  6. Kurma

    Kurma Well-Known Member

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    I disagree because some people who are really good with some guns (skully) will take advantage of the no recoil. Also the coders/ admins want to make it kinda realistic so removing recoil would most likely not happen.
     
    #6 Kurma, Mar 2, 2015
  7. F1r3tar

    F1r3tar Highly Established Member

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    ORANGE, WE NEED YOU.
     
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    #7 F1r3tar, Mar 2, 2015
  8. NathanDrake

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    I said remove it until they fix it.
     
    #8 NathanDrake, Mar 3, 2015
  9. Knaber

    Knaber Well-Known Member

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    shotguns suck, autos (not famas and skully) suck, SMGs suck.
     
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    #9 Knaber, Mar 3, 2015
  10. StrikerSly

    StrikerSly Well-Known Member

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    I feel like this thread was made because I killed you countless times with a sniper rifle yesterday :confused:

    Regardless, I feel like this isn't the reason mc war is boring and the guns are fine for their level. Levelling up your character by playing the game to unlock the skull crusher (an amazing weapon that's automatic, despite I only use ISO) then you will get your reward

    It seems that all the guns that suck IM the one who gets one shot by them across the map on a 20 kill streak... I swear I'm the only one
     
    #10 StrikerSly, Mar 3, 2015
  11. Knaber

    Knaber Well-Known Member

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    Nah, its not just you :v
    I also get like oneshot by anything on a 20ks :/
     
    #11 Knaber, Mar 3, 2015
  12. SkullcrusherLD

    SkullcrusherLD Best-Known GSGer | Ex-War JMod

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    correct, nothing to add

    my name is my answer xD
     
    #12 SkullcrusherLD, Mar 3, 2015
  13. 505

    505 Well-Known Member

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    Nope, if you can't handle being oneshotted don't play first person shooters, I just felt I had no chance trying to crossmap you or anyone else with a sniper because you would fly back after the first shot
     
    #13 505, Mar 3, 2015
  14. StrikerSly

    StrikerSly Well-Known Member

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    Ahh I see what ya mean brother. I agree with that. I guess it's just that since it's not the real thing of course there would be imbalances
     
    #14 StrikerSly, Mar 3, 2015
  15. teawithchoco

    teawithchoco Well-Known Member

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    Yeah well if you compare it to our minestrike, ours is much better. Sometimes the bullets don't even connect with your target and it's always one team that as the edge on other for the all game.
    I also tried out another minestrike from another BIG server and came to the same conclusion, expect that, this time, only donors would win being able to purchase overpowered perks.
     
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    #15 teawithchoco, Mar 4, 2015
  16. WilliamFrost

    WilliamFrost Well-Known Member

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    If you didn't know that there is a recoil glitch at the moment, you better not post anything next time before you know what's really going on or why he/she posted it.

    Stay cool.

    Thanks.
     
    #16 WilliamFrost, Mar 4, 2015
  17. meltingangel

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    Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner.
     
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    #17 meltingangel, Mar 4, 2015
  18. TechDanMedia

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    lol.
     
    #18 TechDanMedia, Mar 5, 2015
  19. Rckula

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    I don't know if it's just me, but I disagree with this. If you made everything in mc-war exactly like Call of Duty, then you could just go play Call of Duty. It's the little things like this that gives mc-war it's originality and makes it unique, and sets it apart from any other server like it. In my eyes, mc-war is perfect as it is(with the exception of the OOM glitches). Just my opinion. ☺
     
    #19 Rckula, Mar 7, 2015
  20. Pegleg98

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    I'd rather have a bad feature than a broken one
     
    #20 Pegleg98, Apr 4, 2015
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