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Mc-War - Second Impressions

Discussion in 'Ideas' started by SoCool21, May 22, 2015.

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  1. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    So yeah... now that I've been able to play the game without lag, I can actually give decent feedback instead of just "fix the lag".

    Overall I'm really enjoying Mc-War, and I'll probably be playing it a lot for the next few weeks or until it gets boring. A lot of my problems are rather small, but when they add up together they can begin to take away from the experience.


    My biggest issue with Mc-War is the fact that it isn't very noob-friendly. Having guns that 4-5 shot people is fine for me, except when I get 3 shots on someone and I then get 1 shot by them, it is really irritating. 1 shot guns are fine, but not against the average new player. The only thing I can think of to fix this issue is either:

    • Have a gun that 1 shots accessible for new players. It'd be a terrible gun, as even though it'd have high damage it should be inaccurate or have a very low rate of fire.
    • Have 2 sets of servers - 1 dedicated for new players to play against new players and 1 dedicated for more experienced players. I have no idea when you begin to get good guns as I'm only around level, but you should be able to play on the more experienced servers when you get to the level where you get good guns.

    Both ideas do have problems. I'd prefer the first idea to be added, although the second could make games smaller (as games usually are a mix of new and old players, whereas if it was added it'd be only new or only old players). The only problem with the first problem is with balancing - it shouldn't be too OP to the point that there's no point in levelling up for better guns, whereas it shouldn't be too UP to the point that its practically useless, and the other guns are much better to use. If there could be a balance found, the first idea would be the best to fix this issue.

    Another bigger issue I have with Mc-War is in OITC. The accuracy is so bad with the guns that I often find myself not bothering with them and just using my sword/knife. To solve this issue, it'd just be best to improve the accuracy of the gun you have in OITC. If necessary, decreasing the range of the gun too.

    The final big issue I have is spawn camping. Its really annoying to get spawn camped, especially when there's not much you can do about it (if your opponent has a powerful gun and kills you within 5 seconds of respawning, for example). The best solution in my opinion would be "spawn protection" for a second, during this second you cannot be attacked. Since its only a second, it most likely won't be abused, but it is enough time to get out of spawn.

    I do also have a few small problems with the gamemode, but overall it doesn't matter too much:

    • When you have 9.5 hunger/stamina, you don't regenerate up to 10 hunger. As well as this, I feel as if the stamina bar decreases too quickly.
    • The "Go Back" item in the class select GUI often doesn't do anything for me.
    • I'm level 6, and only have 1 gun for my secondary gun. It'd be better in my opinion if there was another basic secondary gun.
    • It took me a while to find out you could manually reload (by pressing Q). There should be some sort of "Tips" system where it broadcasts basic gameplay tips, such as reloading with Q, into chat. As you get more experienced, you'd no longer get tips.
    • Infection has always been relatively boring for me. The zombies are very underpowered, and I've not played a game that I can recall where the zombies won. I think it'd be better to have more protection as a zombie.
    • The countdown in chat is always 1 less than the countdown in XP, which is really causing my OCD to go nuts.

    This is all of my issues so far, but overall I'm enjoying Mc-War quite a lot. Thanks for reading, even though I'm guessing no-one's gonna read all of it. :stuck_out_tongue:

    Edit: I re-read it and kinda found it to be negative, so I'm just gonna say these are just my suggestions to improve the gamemode. I'm really enjoying the gamemode, this isn't a complaint. I also added another small problem that I had.
     
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  2. StealthSpy007

    StealthSpy007 Well-Known Member

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    I was about to type a similar complaint, but this summarizes it.
    I disagree with you there. Most of the time zombies win. Although I think there should be more protection and have the defenders have unlimited ammo.

    And if you right click with your gun, you will have better accuracy as the aiming will zoom in.
     
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  3. Romkelolol

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    A server designed for new players? It has been discussed before... Many people didn't really like the idea, and I also am not that sure if it is a good idea.

    1 hit kill guns? Oh baby, We got a lot of those.

    Every sniper has a chance of one-shotting, even l118a. And even m1014, despite how disliked it is, HAS the chance of oneshotting. But that is only if you manage to land all shots.

    As for the other problems, they are either minor problems or entirely subjective.
     
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  4. SoMuchWinning

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    If you need any kind of information, read the book in the McWar lobby. It contains everything you need to know.
     
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  5. Miskey

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    I agree the one shotting is extremely annoying for new players.
     
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  6. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    I agree with having defenders having more ammo, although I think having unlimited ammo wouldn't be the best of ideas. It may work, but it may have problems.

    Yeah, the server designed for new players isn't the best of ideas as it does have a few problems. I've never been able to 1 shot someone, and if there's only a chance of 1 shotting then it still doesn't stand much of a chance against someone with a gun which always 1 shots. A lot of the problems are minor, this is mostly what this post was about (as they're quick to fix, as long as they need to be fixed). Also, all of my opinions (and all of yours) are subjective, that's just how life works :stuck_out_tongue:

    I did read it, and it didn't mention that "Q" was reload. It covers a lot though, so a Tips system may not be necessary, but it'd be nice to add that Q is to reload in the book.
     
  7. chuckstartaylor

    chuckstartaylor Immer für sie da

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    I will try it out as soon as I can
    And is it some what like head shot?
     
  8. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    Well, its with guns, so yeah :stuck_out_tongue:

    There's more game types in War, and guns instead of classes.
     
  9. Andont

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    New players can one shot also. Me being an avid user of the 'underpowered' weapons, if I am against an opponent who I know is fairly good at the game, I would use guns like the L118A, Barret50cal, Famas, or M16, because with a headshot, they one shot just like the isolator. All it requires is practice, and you will be killing iso users left and right. :wink:
     
  10. StealthSpy007

    StealthSpy007 Well-Known Member

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    Well it's hard to get kills sometimes. If they use the ray then it might be worthless. I use m4a1, is that a good gun?
     
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    Alright.
    Since nobody has put two and two together, I'll give you some answers.
    The guns ARE accurate, you just need to click left click to "scope in" and scope out (gives you slowness and zooms your FOV).
    And your guns can 1 shot.
    Every sniper 1 shots if you get a headshot, which basically accounts for the top 1/3 of a player's body.
    Spawn camping is annoying, but it really is a part of the game.
    Be glad you even have protection when you respawn, even if it is just for a few seconds.

    If you need any more help, hop on TeamSpeak or PM me about it so I can answer more specific questions faster.
     
  12. Andont

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    The M4A1 isn't really the best. Try using snipers or burst fire automatics.
     
  13. StealthSpy007

    StealthSpy007 Well-Known Member

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    But I don't have enough credits because I keep getting 1 shotted
     
  14. WillBine

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    Okay... that was fun to read :cyclops:
     
  15. Andont

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    Then use the L118A or M16
     
  16. StealthSpy007

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    But I go out of spawn for 5 seconds, and I don't even realize how I got 1 shotted because the battle lasted for less than 1 second
     
  17. Andont

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    Then be strategic about how you play, hide behind cover and walk out if you want to take a shot. Just practice and you'll be good :smile:
     
  18. StealthSpy007

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    But it's so hard with the winning team having all the EMPS and OP guns that the game ends in 1 minute :/
     
  19. Andont

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    Then go on some of the smaller servers with people that are around your level. Then you will get practice and start to match up against the higher levels.
     
  20. StealthSpy007

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    Now that should work out. Thanks
     
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