Some Problems With Achilles

Ok, I don't play Hardcore Games so I have absolutely no idea about this but your reasoning tells me enough. It should be nerfed/buffed since you need both. But since you say that there is so many kits, I agree, it wouldn't be missed very much.

 

I don't really see why Achilles having too much of an advantage if the defender isn't prepared is a bad thing, or vice - versa. The kit's greatest strength is being able to overpower opponents who aren't prepared, but then again it's really easy to just run away and craft a wood sword. It doesn't need a change in my opinion, and it's one of the more balanced kits.

 

I don't like the style of kit either for the reasons you stated but so many people use it that they won't remove it. Wish it was removed though

 

I like you but the suggestions made here seem bad to me .

1) Its named Achilles referring to Achilles heel ( Google it if you dont know what it is )

2) I dont think the name of the kit has much to do with marketing it as long as it is something memorable .

3) The whole point of the kit is you get a huge advantage / disadvantage under certain conditions . I feel like the reason kits exist is because you should adjust your playstyle to suite them instead of just getting a buff out of it e. (Urgal)

Basically i think that Achilles is a great kit idea and should not be altered , the only thing i would go for is slight reductions of damage taken from wood swords and an increase in damage taken from the other swords .

 

I fought against players using Achilles before without a wooden sword and it wasn't too tricky to kill them. I do admit though that I always had superior equipment.

Regarding the requested name change: You will always find players that do not know the story behind the kit names. Take Urgal as an example: I doubt all players read the Brisingr/Eragon novels, so they also will not understand the meaning. But they can still read the description, because even if you know what a kit name means you still don't know what exact advantages it provides.
And Achilles is a good name for the kit because it fits the greek myth behind the name.

 

The kit is fine, it's not overpowered or too underpowered, Not hard to be prepared.

 

Exactly

Lol you miss the point man !!! THE WHOLE IDEA IS HUGE ADVANTAGE/DISADVANTAGE

 

Achilles is meant to be a late-game kit, where everyone has iron swords. From your post, I can see you don't really know how to use Achilles. I've never played that kit, but from what I know of it, the best strategy is to mine for at least a chestplate. By that time, most people would have at least stone swords.

 

Reading this topic made me steam with rage.

This is a prime example of why the kit ideas shouldn't rely on the community because this is just pathetic.
Achilles is like literally one of two kits in this entire gamemode that are truly great kits, and more kits should be like them.

And this isn't coming from some butthurt Achilles user (I rarely use Achilles). From a game design perspective, Achilles is one of the most unique kits in the game; seeing this kind of crap is kind of why I quit mcpvp in the first place. Minecraft no longer seems like a community that can enjoy competitive gaming and adding advanced video game mechanics to a game lacking such.

Achilles has the beautiful ability to laugh off puny iron/diamond swords and dominate any unprepared fool.

^^^If that was the entire kit that would be extremely OP
But wait there's more!

Achilles WILL get destroyed by anyone with a wooden sword in a fair situation. If you can't handle such a simple counterplay then weenie hut junior is thataway --->
Not to mention wooden swords are the easiest to make

"But Oerlikon! What if I didn't know there was an Achilles!"

Oh but there is a way to know!

Learn to analyse the chat! If you don't want to then you don't want to win. If you never see an achilles player in the chat then that means they just know how to use their kit and you should carry a wood sword anyways. Sorry there won't always be an easy victory.

TL;DR Get gud

Do you remember the days when it was MANDATORY to carry two swords because everyone used monk? Everyone complained but they didn't change it because it had fair counterplay, like Achilles.

"No offense"

Sincerely, Oerlikon

And if you were wondering what the 2nd great kit was, I'm talking about none other than Stomper. Simple kit, Simple counterplay, still possible to dominate with in the right hands.

 

You can backlash with as much rage as you want :^) I don't really play Minecraft that often in general so you won't be forcing me to quit
In fact, when I quit mcpvp I went to League (which partially contributes to why I act so toxic nowadays), then I went on a huge winning streak in ranked and it became less fun to play because I didn't want to ruin the streak so I started playing another game and I'm beginning to grow bored of it after some time. So right now I'm on the search for something else to occupy my time and I would probably resort back to Minecraft if HG was any better (it was the only server I ever played and the only reason why I didn't quit Minecraft 2 years ago).

Unfortunately for me every freaking game I want to play will be released around December

Edit: We can argue about Achilles for as long as you want but I probably won't change my stance on it ^-^

 

A lot of HG players keep wood swords now and the amount of damage Achilles does more is ilproportional to the damage done by a wood sword. The wood sword really is only effective early game. It kills you so fast! Maybe they reduce the damage just a little bit.