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Discussion in 'Creative' started by movinmumble, Sep 24, 2015.

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  1. movinmumble

    movinmumble Member

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    I know people are sick of hearing others whine about Creative, but you know what? I could care less about what they think. I'm upset. My opinion is the equivalent to a pile of trash in some of your minds, but that's not going to stop me from complaining. I think I can survive without having Creative, as long as nobody screws up and loses my builds. My one concern is this: Where the heck am I supposed to PUT MY BUILDS? Just recently, I thought it would be nice to start a new project on a new map, since I THOUGHT you could have unlimited maps. Apparently, things have changed. I was extremely unhappy when I saw that I have to use my money to pay for more building space. It's ridiculous and unfair. In Creative, at least all you had to be was a good builder and a good person, but apparently MC Build is a little different. Being full of delicious greens to pay for the server is all that matters I guess. You know what? It makes sense! The word "creative" is defined as
    "relating to or involving the imagination or original ideas." Creative was about expressing your creativity and working hard to achieve goals. MC Build, I guess, is just about having money.

    I've just been informed by my lovely accomplice that only MVP, VIP, and ELITE ranks can have multiple maps. Oh, well would you look at that! More things to pay for! I understand that the server needs money, but aren't there alternative ways you could get money? Something a little more fair?

    I think I'm done with my rant.

    And, no, I'm not sorry for complaining.
     
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  2. WarSkater

    WarSkater Rob // MC-WarZ Hardcore Crafter

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    I like the fact that you told people to stop worrying about it, however, you did go on a rant, which is basically the equivalent to complaining, depending on how the context is.
     
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  3. Primeste

    Primeste Active Member

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    Honestly I totally agree its stupid to take our money just to build. Sure you get one map but when you finish? what do you do pay 50 bucks for another. Honestly brawl this a whole new low for you. @Snevie I completely agree with your argument and I don't think its a complaint I think its a fact and a statement needed to be said.
     
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  4. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    TBH to do any sort of productive building you need minimum 2 maps. So this is definitely an issue. Raise the limits, guys.
     
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  5. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    Walks into office of the pudgy developers and knocks the donut of of his hand.

    Tips over table with donuts and steps on his Anime dolls...

    The number of maps needs to be raised.
     
  6. MiloAnderson

    MiloAnderson Active Member

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    Creative is going down yes I know its hard, but Brawl is growing and brawlers are going to have to adapt to the growth of this server. I know everyone worked hard to achieve big things and yes we are going to miss creative. Then again this is a huge step for brawl and those who are staying will create beautiful things.
     
  7. cityscaper

    cityscaper Well-Known Member

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    I am sorry you all feel that way. I do agree that it seems a little annoying that you don't have as many maps, but you guys do have a lot of space. You have 260,000 square blocks of space. If you find yourself running out of space, then move your build to a corner. I do believe that you can get more maps for making game-mode maps, but making them isn't easy. I am sure if you make solutions instead of ranting, those in power will listen.
     
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  8. potatoesky

    potatoesky Well-Known Member

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    I personally think that the reason why the creative regulars are sad isn't because of the ranks. If Build had a few features from Creative, like what they said would happen (the whole point of calling it a merge), not many creative players would complain. I know that I would be totally fine with the merge as long as the following things were done:

    -Keeping our builds
    Yeah, this is the huge one. A lot of people are saying that we will be able to keep our builds and I'm hoping that this is true. If you think about it, when the MCPvPers lost their builds when the server was shut down, they were upset as well. This is sort of a similar situation. No one would want their hard work to just go down the drain. It would be great if someone would let us know that our builds will be kept for sure, like 100% sure.

    -Adding a couple of Creative features to Build
    I'm not talking about plots and ranks. If all of the essential commands such as, /seen, /near, /gms, /gma, /top, /item, etc from creative were added to Build, it would be wonderful. Someone mentioned something about adding creative features to build so hopefully they'll get added soon.

    -Increasing the limit of maps
    The maps are huge so many people think one map is big enough for all of our builds from creative. Some of us ranked Creative players have 3+ plots filled with gigantic builds. If we are able to transfer our builds from creative to build, we might need more than one map. The limit of having only one map as a default no-ranked player isn't the best, to be honest.

    I think most creative players would agree that if those three main things were done, there would be less complaints or no complaints at all. The ranks and the plots don't matter to me, I just want my builds transferred like what is supposed to happen, some of the creative features on build as that is what a merge would be, and maybe increasing the limit of the amount of maps a normal player can have.

    However, can't promise that I won't be upset about Creative shutting down even with the three things because it's sort of like my home getting removed. Kind of like MCPvPers being sad about their server shutting down. I guess this case is a bit different but since Creative used to be my favourite server, I'm not gonna lie, I'd probably still be a little sad about it getting shut down.
     
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  9. pAggYDaRP

    pAggYDaRP Well-Known Member

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  10. Lord_Roke

    Lord_Roke Forever the Forums Watchdog
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    Running servers costs money, so they need to pay off in some way. If you can think of any other features Build players would pay for, we would be glad to hear them.

    All Creative plots will be saved and you will be able to transfer them to your Build maps.

    A single Build map can have a maximum of 67,108,864 blocks, with a size of 512x512x256. I'm pretty sure it is impossible to get this much space on creative, since even WEPros only get 4 large plots and I believe the length of one side of a creative plot is less than 256.
    On Build, everyone gets this much space instantly and for free.
    This means you have more space than a WEPro and more space to build and express your creativity on Build than you could ever have on Creative.

    Yes, Build does have a money aspect. But without this aspect running the server would not pay off. And without spending any money or any time on applications, you can get a lot of space and access to WorldEdit on Build.
     
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  11. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    I'm not saying don't sell maps but:
    1. Give defaults more maps
    2. Sell maps separately from ranks.
     
  12. Intincrui

    Intincrui Well-Known Member

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    I would really see an actually merge, instead of a takeover. The definition of merge on dictionary.com is when two things combine. This means that some creative features should be added too, maybe like the rank system. I agree taking our money to build is stupid though.
     
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  13. Doges

    Doges Ex-Mod, Ex-Builder

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    For the purpose of just messing around and testing stuff out, 1 512x512 plot is more than enough. If you make (decent) builds, it should last you for a really long time if you utilize all the space. The only time I can see one needing another map is for things that are to be used officially on brawl. If you wish to make something such as a War or CTF map and are actually serious about doing so, contact a build staff member for another map.
     
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  14. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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  15. November

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    you're all acting very hot headed. take a moment to actually think it through and you'll realise it isnt that bad

    there's a lot more space on a build map than i think you realise. for example here is a ctf map i made a while ago and it's pretty massive. it's roughly 250x200 and that's less than half the size of a build map. that also doesn't account for the fact i could build above and below it. there's absolutely acres of space to build things on
    [​IMG]

    i've never paid for a map on build and i own over 60 maps and that's not because i am build team. i got most of them before i had the rank. you forget that there are build competions that get hosted. during the skywars comp you were allowed to create an extra map specifically for skywars and it wouldn't affect the limit of your other maps. the winners of these comps get free ranks and more maps along with that, which is one way that i got more maps.

    makes sense though. what would be the point of buying a rank if you didn't get a benefit from it?

    that's a difficult one because fairness is completely subjective. i personally think it's fairer that everyone will have access to world edit, be able to talk in global chat, and have larger plots but people, mainly creative players, seem to disagree
     
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  16. Serine1002

    Serine1002 A shadow in the night

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    What do you want us to 'stop?'
    Idk but its long and its written by tato so i liked
     
  17. StealthSpy007

    StealthSpy007 Well-Known Member

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    Apparently have you brawlers even tried build? Have you even joined it? The plots are massive
     
  18. Serine1002

    Serine1002 A shadow in the night

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    I already beat the parkour :>
     
  19. Emas

    Emas Well-Known Member

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    @Doges why we can't keep our ranks in MCbuild
     
  20. November

    November november

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    because they will be pointless on build since everyone has the same capabilities
     
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