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Question: do you think Brawl/war/warz is in violation of the minecraft server eula?

Discussion in 'Discussion' started by Copyright2017, Jan 3, 2016.

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  1. Copyright2017

    Copyright2017 Active Member

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    https://account.mojang.com/terms#commercial Under section: Servers and Hosting

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    • sell cosmetic items, except for "Capes", IF the item sold does not give a user an unfair gameplay advantage over anyone else on the server - i.e there can be no "pay to win".
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    there is more, that is just the bulk. read it for yourself.


    i saw a twitter post wherein someone was banned from a particular server's fourms for reminding people about this very subject.
     
  2. Serine1002

    Serine1002 A shadow in the night

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    Yes it is but no one cares.
     
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  3. Syntheria

    Syntheria Well-Known Member

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    People like you that are actually like have advantages over other people who aren't so fortunate to be able to pay for little pixel advantages wont care. Lol so naive, but tbh I actually feel sorry for you
     
  4. __Astro_

    __Astro_ Active Member

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    war... lol how about warz
     
  5. marcel18167

    marcel18167 Well-Known Member

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    Well they didn't do it to fix pay2win servers...
     
  6. F1r3tar

    F1r3tar Highly Established Member

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    Human nature is to be succeed over everyone else. I feel sorry for you for not having common sense.
     
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  7. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    I was always under the impression that no matter what kind of gun you had you could always beat someone better than you. I've been killed by a stone sword with full iron armor on. So though it may be "pay to win" you aren't garunteed a win.
     
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  8. MrWaffleman

    MrWaffleman The negligence of time's end is man's downfall

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    How would this make an advantage? I've been seeing threads like these so I'll post what I can. The things I list are things that can be bought from the store.

    Experience - It gives you MC-War experience points, this isn't Pay 2 Win because you can just shoot people and level up, all this does is give you a little boost. Also you can get XP by doing /vote

    Guns - Alot of people have argued about this, but so what? Do you see people who have Miniguns absolutely dominating the game and ruining everyone's experience? In your case you hate it, it's just that people focus on the people who kill them and say they suck only because that other person is dominating them. It's basically jealous that you don't have a Minigun, I'm sure 99% of the people who are like MINI NOOB don't have Miniguns and really want one. It's just that people make such a big deal about it. There are even USP NUKES, you can just pick a gun and be more OP than a guy with a Minigun, it just comes down to skill, but the guns are just a little bit better. The only reason is that the good people are using these guns making a lot of people rage.

    Equipment - You can get grenades by doing /vote, Super Knife is not even that OP, it's equivalent to a shotgun with horrible long-range accuracy and fast firerate in my opinion.

    Perks - The only thing that sticks out that can be a problem is the perk SPEED, other than that they are all not even that much of a deal. Also you can only have one perk at a time which makes these less OP.

    Scavenger -
    Allows you to have more ammo, but you can easily just get a 5 killstreak and replenish your ammo, and if you run out of bullets fast then don't keep on spraying, use your bullets wisely. Also the snipers have lots of ammo so you don't need to worry about scav there.

    Marathon - All this does is save you like 10 seconds of your life replenishing your stamina, plus in vanilla minecraft there's a limit of how far you can run, then you have to press Alt again to run again.

    Sleight of Hand - Allows you to reload your gun twice as fast, which is again a "save-10-seconds-of-your-life" kind of thing.

    Hardline - ONE less kill for a killstreak, does having 3 less kills to get a nuke the change of the world? Nope that big of a deal, it still comes down to skill if you want to nuke or get another killstreak.

    Martyrdom - It is BASICALLY the same thing as dropping a grenade where you're at, someone shoots you and you die, then the grenade explodes. This is probably the most worthless of all of these perks, it doesn't make the slightest change in gameplay.

    Value Packs - It's the same thing as buying a bunch of things together, doesn't really make a difference in gameplay.

    Out of all the things I said, I would have to agree that ONE specific perk can be iffy, the Speed perk. And how does this class that disobeys-the-EULA-and-is-very-unbalanced affect the game? By having SPEED 1, good job. I just did a short summary of these to save myself from typing an essay.
     
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  9. sparky_5

    sparky_5 Well-Known Member

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    Warz is the same thing but agent never plays it
     
  10. Usp45

    Usp45 Well-Known Member

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    Things that make War pay to win...
    -Ray-Gun: Pretty much the only guarentee to survive infects if you have a good spot.
    -Minigun: Stupid for close-quarter maps, provides far too big of an advantage to be fair.
    -Scavenger: If you don't have ammo, you really can't play.

    Things that make WarZ pay to win...
    -Rank: It is not AT ALL enjoyable without a rank. It really isn't. I seriously cannot enjoy playing if I can't actually play.
     
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  11. SamRVCA

    SamRVCA Active Member

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    All that being said, any item in the shop can be obtained other than simply buying it. I have scav, sleight of hand, minigun, cbow and elite and I all got it for free. Some of it obtained through friend (you know who you are <3) or events. Half of my donator items have been obtained from events therefore not impossible to obtain without purchase.
     
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  12. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    Sounds like you just got killed by someone in warz and raged. It happens. I've gotten mad too, however, I continued to play even before I became jmod. I didn't have a special rank to help me. In fact, even now I don't really use my perks in warz because I love wandering the map and finding secret spots and loots. Ranks don't give you a perk because you can still collect loot and walk to the nether zone to get full diamond. It takes longer, but its possible and its more fun than teleporting.
     
  13. MrWaffleman

    MrWaffleman The negligence of time's end is man's downfall

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    Raygun has been nerfed by chickenputty, EVERYONE hated it, it just shows what the community comes down for, most of the community hated it but I guess the people who didn't have Raygun were like okay...

    Made a little post about anti-Minigun, not as OP as it sounds.

    I've gotten an EMP with my sword lol, but like I said it comes down to not being stupid and reserving your ammo, and if you still don't like it use Snipers because they have lots of ammo and usually one shot.

    You can't ENJOY playing it, lots of people enjoy playing as whitenames, and you can google up a lot of people who clutched as whitenames. If you don't enjoy it, doesn't mean other won't.
     
  14. Jaetpack1

    Jaetpack1 Why jetpack when you can Jaetpack? (RC1)

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    In your example, every server is Pay2Win. I haven't found a single popular server that doesn't give you at least slightly better items than the average Joe when you donate or buy something in the server shop. If Mojang was as strict about their rule as you think they are, most to all servers should be disbanded.
     
  15. Syntheria

    Syntheria Well-Known Member

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    Yeah but ive never even heard of you your diamond kills are probs 0-3

    Fam have you played mineplex, lol do you only play on Brawl and a few pvp servers smh
     
  16. Jaetpack1

    Jaetpack1 Why jetpack when you can Jaetpack? (RC1)

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    On Mineplex, when you buy a rank, it gives you more options in the minigames. It gives you better options to pick. For example, there was a minigame where there were Ender Dragons and you try to survive them as they're destroying the platform you're on. The class that you can pick without donating is a basic one where you can have a higher jump once every few seconds while if you donated, there was a class where you can fly for a very little amount of time every few seconds. That is a much better class than the one without donating.
     
  17. onepunchmeme

    onepunchmeme Well-Known Member

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    Just letting you know, someday Mojang is going to sue this server so hard. It scares me when I think about it, but you really can't do anything about it. It's going to be far too difficult and inconvenient to change the status quo and replace old with new.

    So, is every Minecraft server like Brawl potentially doomed? Possibly. The only reason why I think Mojang is not enforcing it's EULA is because doing so would massively affect Minecraft's playerbase. Pay2win servers like Brawl are a primary reason why Minecraft has a steady population. Killing said servers would be disastrous to the system. However, should circumstances allow these risks to be ignored, Mojang might take legal action.

    That's my stupid theory, I'm pretty bored rn
     
  18. Copyright2017

    Copyright2017 Active Member

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    Look. war is totally pay 2 win. i mean sure the average player who actually spends some time with even the lvl 0 guns like m16 or l188a can do plenty of damage, and even combat people who are using op guns. but that doesnt change the fact that the very existence of guns like the minigun and raygun and crossbow provide a GIANT advantage. sure you can beg to a friend to donate for you and that makes it so they are obtainable without actually spending cash. but i dont think thats one of the ways mojang was including when they wrote their EULA. the EULA clearly states: that you may NOT give a user an unfair gameplay advantage over anyone else on the server - i.e there can be no "pay to win".

    Frankly, i have my own biases about these guns. and bluntly i would rather they be removed alltogether. over the course of all my accounts i own every gun, and 3 perks. the law is practical. the cbow has a balance, still overpowered... but not as bad as the minigun or the raygun. flame is self explanitory. just causes lag :stuck_out_tongue:

    the point is. brawl is in violation. "nobody cares" is not an answer. sure we can just table the issue, it doesnt fix the fact that the server would be way less toxic if it was more fair.


    I dont think mojang wrote the EULA just to annoy people. it is a recipie and a set of rules that if followed, can help a server achieve perfection.
     
  19. Sn4x5

    Sn4x5 Ex WarZ Mod

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    it´s not, the advantage of tping and an echest doesn´t say that you can´t win against an VIP/MVP/ELITE as a non-donator ^^
     
  20. Serine1002

    Serine1002 A shadow in the night

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    I'm serious, Mojang doesn't care.
     
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