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Censor The Word "Hacks"

Discussion in 'Suggestions / Ideas' started by Marthus, Feb 5, 2016.

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  1. Marthus

    Marthus Former War MOD | 9 Year Veteran

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    Hello MartGames here. Today I want to talk about how many times I hear the word "Hacks" for no reason.

    It's really annoying for a lot of people. Most of the times it's said by beginners, and I know that it's hard to believe how good some people are at games. But please think about what you're saying. Report the player if you have enough proof. Not just by the reason "Hacks", you need a lot more evidence than that to report a player.

    This is why I, and a lot of other people want to censor the word "Hacks". To prevent fights in the chat.
     
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  2. Lord_Roke

    Lord_Roke Forever the Forums Watchdog
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    The chat filter censors swear words and other inappropriate words younger players shouldn't see. Even though false hack accusations are common, "hack", "hacking" or "hacker" aren't inappropriate words. It is already a rule that you are not allowed to accuse others of hacking.
     
  3. StrikerSly

    StrikerSly Well-Known Member

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    I think they actually censored this before, and they even censored noob!
     
  4. sjuka_legogubbar

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    It can also make people not able to tell a mod that someone is hacking... well PM's still have no cencore so well why not make this cencored too... i mean theres no reason of calling hacks. And if you want to tell a mod then its just to /msg... but as roke said also, its not a bad word. But i still think its being used as a bad word nowdays.
     
  5. Marthus

    Marthus Former War MOD | 9 Year Veteran

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    We're not allowed to accuse others of hacking, so why not censor it? I know it's not an inappropriate word but it doesn't need to be said in chat right?
     
  6. Aboves

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    If a staff member sees 4 asterisks, (*) What do you think they will assume? We will most likely assume the person is cussing, and proceed to warn them to not do it excessively. When the player was be saying something else entirely.
     
  7. Marthus

    Marthus Former War MOD | 9 Year Veteran

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    Well most of the times it'll look like this: "He uses ****" or something like that. They'll understand fast enough that that word is censored and they wont use it again
     
  8. jarboyp

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    So you want Brawl to be like hypixel, have no report system and everyone calling each other haxors?
     
  9. Marthus

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    I know that we have a report system it is just that sensoring the word "hacks" won't help at all because people will just say haxors instead of hacks.
     
  11. Marthus

    Marthus Former War MOD | 9 Year Veteran

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    The Staff is smart enough to censor that as well.
     
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  12. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    Let's also block poopyface while we're at it because that has the potential to hurt a first graders feelings.
     
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  13. bwfcwalshy

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    I actually wanted to talk about this as well.

    Personally, I do not think it should be censored instead just cancelled and then a message is sent to the player saying "You can report hackers at report.brawl.com"

    This will help prevent all the useless accusations in chat and possibly get more people actually reporting if people are hacking.

    If anyone is interested, the code for this is here.
    Code:
    @EventHandler
    public void onChat(AsyncPlayerChatEvent e){
        if(e.getMessage().toLowerCase().contains("hacks")){
            e.setCancelled(true);
            e.getPlayer().sendMessage(ChatColor.YELLOW + "You can report hackers at report.brawl.com or use /report to notify online staff");
        }
    }
     
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  14. jarboyp

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    Then people will say haxooers, and then haoxors, and on and on.
     
  15. Marthus

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    I Agree @bwfcwalshy
     
  16. featherpaw

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    To tell you the truth, it is rather annoying. However, I feel that no matter how much you attempt to rectify the issue, there will always be loopholes. People will bypass the filter. It is the job of the jmods to censor these sorts of things, and I would say we do a decent job. All in all though, when there are no jmods on the responsibility falls to the good players of brawl. It begins with you all being fed up with it and getting on them about it. (please don't start a flame war over it) We can all do a part in keeping hackusations out of chat. Let's do our part.
     
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  17. fillpant

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    First of all, a message i have been trying to transmit is that the term "hack" is used inapropriately in this case. Although it is a "hacked client", that doesnt mean the player is hacking. They are using a hacked client to cheat.

    Well that brings up another debate about weather or not the words being sensored are truly swear words or if it is over exagurating... I can think of a word writen on my passport, and ID that i cannot say in chat, and also another one used by teachers at school and even politians on TV that is also sensored.
    Also about the rule, it seems that it isnt very clear for all players, and is defenately not mentioned in the message shown by "/rules" and infact, most rules are not clearly stated there:
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    As you see, there is no rule saying "No hack acusations" and infact none of the above 3 even aproaches the hack accusation thing at all, so i think a new member who hasnt looked arround the forums for the rules, will not be aware that it is not allowed. Also the 3rd rule seen above, is quite too absolute because arguing isnt nessesarily a disagreement on wether or not the staff is right about a rule but it can be the way events are presented by the staff member, i mean, staff members are also humans -or so i want to belive- so it more than probable that a mistake will be made either because the staff hasnt been present before the incident happend or because a player happends to know something the staff is not taking into consideration. In this case, shouldnt a player come forward and argue with the staff member for the good of others and to also help brawl be a friendly comunity rather than a comunity where a staff member joins and the rest leave? (Not saying that is the case.)
    In all, and to end this off-topic section here, i belive the ingame rules command must be changed to -at least- point to the forums post with the full list.

    Same as with chat filter. Nothing is unbypassable, the point is to give a clear message to the player that they are not supose to do this and although i see your point with staff members and experienced brawl members, i have to say that by experience, and from the psychology of humans, once a group of people turns against a single individual, he/she will feel threatened/attacked and will respond. Responses vary and some are attacking back and that could be avoided with a simple message shown automatically.
    My point here is that if player 1 acuses someone of 'hacking', he/she is probably in a tense moment and 15 members saying back "Player 2 isnt hacking, read the rules you noob" and similar messages (some polite, others inpolite) player 1 is likely to express themselves and how they feel at the time, sometimes causing arguments between players. (Got some examples of that...)
    And i agree that brawl is not the place to flame, certainly not but as i said above, its up to each individual to reply in their own way, and its up to the rest to interpret that and that has many windows of opotunity to insult someone personally and then spark an argument...

    The system can be improved to keep these words out, and ofcourse because it is a chat filter, bypassing it is an offense by itself.

    That can be improved as well, staff can do a milion and one things more than a player, so by adjusting the chat filter you can make it so it underlines sensored words for staff members and displays them instead of asterisks, other than this you can make it hover-over so the staff member can hover over the asterisks to see the message ect. But as @bwfcwalshy said, you dont need to show asterisks in chat, just cancel out the entire message and show a message.

    EDIT Just realised that the word "DDoS" which means "Distributed Denial of Service" and is an attack against a machine on the network from other machines, is considered a "swear word" and you cannot say it. What is the point of blocking this word then instead of "hacker" ?
     
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  18. PandaCanFly

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    I think they should make it so you have to be like a 60+ to day hacker or something
     
  19. fillpant

    fillpant Well-Known Member

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    That isnt going to help a ton though, there are 60+ 's hack acusing, i would prefer the chat filtering for all levels.
     
  20. rmure

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    We're just gonna turn into mineplex then... they have something like this and it's extremely annoying if you want to use the word "hack" legitimately
    That's because the rule list for war itself is extremely outdated and was last updated long before hackusating was against the rules. really wish they'd update it tho
     
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