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To all players that think staff hacks...

Discussion in 'Discussion' started by featherpaw, Feb 18, 2016.

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Have you ever been accused of hacking when you weren't?

  1. Yes! Every time I get online I'm blamed for being good. ;)

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  2. Once or twice, but I don't really care.

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  3. No, I haven't been accused of anything like that, silly.

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  4. I actually don't know... hmm...

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  1. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    Hey guys! Well, I'd like to begin by saying that no, this is not a rant thread. Not entirely at least. It's more of a general notice. I'd like to say that I've been reported many, maaaaaaany times. XD It's quite comical actually. The staff all laughs at it. Why? Because we've all been in the same position. We all know what it's like to be accused of abusing our "staff privileges" and hacking. This is what I'll be talking about today. Also, before we get into the deep discussion I'd also like to reach out to those players that we all know don't hack. They've been around forever and have a reputation of being good. Suddenly a new player comes around and gets beaten by them and next thing everyone knows, hackusations are flying! I sympathize with you. Hopefully some of you guys can relate to this thread.

    Firstly, what is "abusing staff privileges"? JMODS have access to /kick and /mute. We don't have the fancy /poof commands or the almighty /ban command that drops a hammer on someone's head. (yes. I'm being glib on purpose) Because of this, I don't understand how I, and other JMODS alike, can be accused of abusing our privileges. We aren't affecting anyone's gameplay unless we use kick. In that case, if it gets to the point that someone is being kicked from the server, you can bet your britches they are being reported as well. MOD+ is a little more understandable, but even then; has anyone seen a MOD+ go invisible and then kill someone? It'd be a little obvious. Not to mention, JMODS go through vigorous tests to make sure they know the difference between different hacks before they are promoted to MOD. At that point, it is believed that when a MOD bans someone, it was because they were hacking.

    Let's take an example of in-game. I'm a JMOD for party and I don't know how many times I've won 3 or 4 games in a row and immediately been spammed with "Hacker! You're abusing your power! grrrr! I'm a bear!" :stuck_out_tongue: Next thing I know I'm getting 5 reports in a row pertaining to me being a hacker. My question is, how can I be abusing my power to hack? I only have /mute and /kick. I can't speak for other staff members, but I did not apply to be a staff member until I was good at the game-mode I was applying for. Because of that, it's frustrating to be accused of hacking after all the time, effort, and energy put into perfecting my skills. Food for thought.

    There's also the moments when someone comes up with a rumor that a staff member is actually using a hacked client. OK. That's fine. People can accuse of that because I suppose it is possible, but please don't just spam the /report button if that's the case. Try to get some evidence to prove it and then turn in an official form. That makes everyone's day! :smile:

    tl:dr- I guess what I'm saying is, if you see a staff member that you know actually regularly plays the game, please don't just automatically assume they are hacking or using their powers given to them by the holy entities known as the DEVs to beat everyone else. Have a little more faith in us. And have a little more faith in the community in general. ^-^
     
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  2. NathanDrake

    NathanDrake Well-Known Member

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    We have had mods that abuse their powers in the past, as you explain in this thread though, JMOD's have very little power. If someone hack accuses just ignore them because they are obviously uneducated nine-year olds.
     
  3. jarboyp

    jarboyp Bunny Defender

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    Most people don't know the difference between a killaura and killaura. I just laugh when I'm accused of hacking.
     
  4. JoseMigueCarrera

    JoseMigueCarrera Active Member

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  5. GetShadowRealmed

    GetShadowRealmed What do I put here

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    Leave it, I find it funny.
     
  6. SuperDucky_x

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    Yeah sometimes Mods would accidently abuse there powers but that wouldn't mean they did it on purpose but if they were not to unban you then they were abusing their powers and then they will get demoted and banned for abusing. But on a different server a mod abused powers and thought I had speed and banned me and I did a ban appeal and they still didn't unban me so I just hate when some Mods just abuse.
     
  7. Faded_Templar

    Faded_Templar Member

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    Even though I'm new tho this amazing community. I agree, In my like 1 hour I've bene playing, I have seen maybe 2 or 3 inexperienced players call staff members such as "hackers" and "abusers"
    One little idea I'm thinking off, Maybe block /report (staff members name) so that it doesnet "waste" staff members time idk, and then it would say maybe "You cannot report staffmembers" and then the message "please take it with the Smod cuddled if you have proof" If cuddled is up to it, She already does her job amazing Props to you @Cuddled
    But hey that's only my opinion

    ~Faded_Templar
     
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  8. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    not a bad idea! although I don't think it'll work very well considering there are occasional times a staff member will hack and abuse.
     
  9. Chopo

    Chopo Well-Known Member

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    Why is this even an issue? Who cares what other people think of you? Just let them accuse, ignore them and move on.
     
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  10. Jaetpack1

    Jaetpack1 Why jetpack when you can Jaetpack? (RC1)

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    I agree 100%. Back when there wasn't as much emphasis on chat moderation, I got a bunch of "Jaetpack1 hacks!" and "Jet is usng haks" (I've legitimately heard that before). It really is annoying to hear because you didn't do anything. It seems like it's an automatic response and excuse for getting beaten in any game, rather it be party or War. You now it isn't serious when a PVT on War says you use aimbot because it isn't even possible to direct where the snowball goes or how much damage it does because that's for the server to decide, not the item shooting it.

    I just ignore it really because it doesn't help anyone and it's a useless chat. There's no real meaning behind it except an excuse for being killed. There
    are some legitimate ones, but that doesn't come up very often :stuck_out_tongue:. Unfortunately, there's not much that can be done about it besides muting the person if it becomes spam. I wrote a thread that has to do with calling people noobs because of what gun they use, but it's basically the same idea: an excuse because you got killed by someone better.
     
  11. Lozzylouise

    Lozzylouise SG Player at Heart

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    Me being a moderator for approximately 6 months, I completely understand this. When it comes to abuse of a moderators powers there is always the option of gathering evidence and sending it in to Cuddled. By doing so you'd be helping the community massively and overall improving the quality of the staff team. Also, hackusating is sorted the majority of the time with a punishment as it is a mutable offence. I fully sympathise with those falsely accused but there are types kinds of people in this particular situation. Some people may act defensive and get upset to some extent but it takes great maturity to ignore it and move on perhaps even laugh about it. In my opinion it's not something to get too fussed about and that's a great quality to have.
     
  12. randomcitizen1

    randomcitizen1 The schizophrenic swagmoneymillionaire

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    I didn't know this was an issue. :V Anyways, this thread is so logical, you must have hacked in order to have written it. Obvs h4x. Ez ban. Rec. Git gud. Etc.
     
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  13. Andrwe

    Andrwe Well-Known Member

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    This is a really good point, I've seen it happen, and a regular player can't effectively call out a trusted staff member. Player frustration is super understandable IMO.
     
  14. randomcitizen1

    randomcitizen1 The schizophrenic swagmoneymillionaire

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    I have a question. Do mods+ have access to a force tp command?
     
  15. Lozzylouise

    Lozzylouise SG Player at Heart

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    Yes they do. (/Tp [IGN])
     
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  16. Arpy

    Arpy Well-Known Member

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    I sometimes win fights by simply winning a fight on WarZ by one shooting a full iron white name and they start flaming in chat saying, " OMG HACK REC UR GETTING BANNED!!!!!" Then they start PMing me telling me that I was "hacking" and that I was going to get banned. I simply reply and say, " I recorded the fight too. Would you like me to upload?" Then they get off the server. I find it quite comical.
     
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  17. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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  18. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    Woah woah woah m8. I can personally garuntee you that @Heroui and I can beat any other mod at party. Maybe not war, but party is our jam! ^-^
     
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  19. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    I bet you guys would dominate at Party....

    The guys I was listing are pretty good at War.

    No one parties like an Overlord though. :open_mouth:
     
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  20. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    Hah! Good one! 1v1 me bro!
     
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