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HG Teams.

Discussion in 'Hardcore Games' started by BlueGuyARed, Apr 4, 2016.

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Would you like to see some version of the former HG Teams system adopted onto Brawl?

  1. Yes

    87.5%
  2. No

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  1. BlueGuyARed

    BlueGuyARed Member

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    Hi.

    HG Teams was something MCPVP ran for the last couple months of it being alive. It died out due to many reasons, but the point is we have seen many cries for it to come back and the purpose of this thread is really to see if you guys, the community want it back and if you do then how you want it to come back.

    If you have no idea what it is refer to CTF Teams as a model. Basically you and a group of HG friends get together and make a team. Then you can contact other teams and schedule matches where the last player alive wins it for the team. Imagine like a 5v5 in an HG arena to the death but HG can add so much strategy and fun into it.

    As said above, if we did bring it back - we would change a lot of the structure of how it is run and overall add more organization to it and refine the system. We don't have any final system approved but here is what we[me] were[was] thinking:

    1. Instead of having official teams and such - we could just post a schedule of matches and you could sign up just by replying to it and telling you which of your friends are also going to be there. You and your teammates would receive x amount of Elite for winning.

    2. Have HG teams but with no official structure. Basically just post a thread announcing it and whoever registers for it is randomized onto teams and they fight.

    Solutions to make HG Teams more interesting if we kept the old system
    - Monthly HG tournament for all teams. [the entire team would win x amount of Elite]
    - Add some new gameplay to HG tournaments alone - such as the PVE experienced in the last HG Tournament
    - Instead of just having the winner be determined by the last person alive - make it a point based system. So the last person alive gets 20 points for their team and second to last gets 15 points for their team, etc.
    -More? [comment below]


    Thanks - Just vote in the poll above.
    - HG Staff Team/Brawl Staff Team
     
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    #1 BlueGuyARed, Apr 4, 2016
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  2. Speedcell

    Speedcell Ex-Raid Mod | Team Vanta

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    OMG! Yes, I missed HG Teams so much! Having HG Tournaments is an incredible idea.
    Spoiler: Vanta vs SuB 5v5
     
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  3. PhantomYoshi

    PhantomYoshi Active Member

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    Sounds really interesting, I can definitely see myself participating.
     
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  4. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    Looks nice
     
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  5. Stormneo

    Stormneo Active Member

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    Sounds like fun. I'm definitely down if other players are as well.
     
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    #5 Stormneo, Apr 5, 2016
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  6. MattM1PVP

    MattM1PVP Ex-HG Staff Member

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    A suggestion to the tournament:
    Every now and then (monthly/2 months), have a 1v1 elimination tournament. Starts off with round of 16, quarter, semi and then the final
     
  7. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    Sounds good too!
     
  8. jarboyp

    jarboyp Bunny Defender

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    Good idea. However, the teams should only fight in soup HG, since soup HG depends on skill and strategy more than no-soup.
     
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  9. BookWyrm17

    BookWyrm17 Active Member

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    HEY! I feel like nosoup has more skill and strategy!
    :stuck_out_tongue: But that's not really the reason I want nosoup to be used as well. It shouldn't matter which one really has more strategy and such, it should more matter whether or not people will play in it. If you take out nosoup, you disqualify all the people who play nosoup. Since people like both modes, both modes should be used, whether or not one has more strategy or not.

    On topic sooo
    I would LOVE it if team HG were added! I never actually got a chance to participate in a THG, even though I was on a team, and I was so ready for the idea too.
     
  10. jarboyp

    jarboyp Bunny Defender

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    Well, if you call placing lava on someone and winning, or going kit jellyfish and spamming the water blocks so you can get a team of 5's health down to half a heart strategy then yes, it includes strategy.
     
  11. TheMafias

    TheMafias Something wise

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    If you call being able to practive souping years ahead of people strategy, then yes it is :grinning:

    Also Good luck Vanta and Sub, This is my territory, I don't like it when survival players stroll into my neighborhood.
     
  12. BookWyrm17

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    Heheh, those are a bit much at times. But I manage to avoid being hit into those sort of things usually, or trapping them in their own lava sometimes :grinning: That might be something that could be removed, since you don't have the benefit of using your extra hours of practice with your extra 200 hearts (in liquid form). Of course, they could simply add a lot more fire resistant potions, which would be nice, or remove the poison on the water.
    I don't generally have issues with the Jellyfish though, cause you only have poison while in the water, and once you avoid that they are usually in easy reach, meaning you do more damage with your sword in that moment then they would have done with their water in that moment.
    If a team of five loses to a single Jellyfish, I think that says more about the ability of their team than the ability of the Jellyfish. :/
    Both forms take practice, of course. Yours takes a lot more proper button mashing practice, while mine takes a lot more mouse swishing practice. But I can maybe avoid things that you couldn't, and you can probably live through things that I couldn't.
    It really depends on what you like more though, for this thing at least. If there is a no-soup HGTeams, you aren't being forced to play it, any more than you are being forced to play the current nosoup :grinning:
     
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  13. jarboyp

    jarboyp Bunny Defender

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    What I am doing, making a lava pancake?
    Anyway, most of the noobs that play no-soup, which is what it is designed for, can't really participate in a team tournament because they just started getting in the game. I know there are some no-soup mains, but I don't really think there are enough of them to really justify that no-soup team tournaments should alternate with soup team tournaments equally. Also, I feel that no-soup kills strategy. I remember in 2013/2012 where new players would try all of these creative traps and towers to try to kills players who knew how to soup. Heck I even remember my first game where my strategy was to dig down in an underground ravine, trick the player to dig strait down to me, and fall to his death. It completely failed, but it was really fun to try to outsmart the player since I couldn't beat him in a 1v1. Nowdays all I see in no-soup is players 5v1ing a poor guy or using their kits to completely destroy their opponent. No wonder why noobs are calling games like this pay-to-win. It is almost impossible to kill a kangaroo with no kit of your own unless you are an extreme comboer or can place lava very well.
     
  14. TheMafias

    TheMafias Something wise

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    As a main No - souper I find this true. I myself had to kill a team of ten by myself. (Yea... Managed to do it.) It was really intense and pretty lucky... I can see only one or two no soup games in the future
     
  15. BookWyrm17

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    Oh, well no I don't really think there should be the same amount of both :grinning: It is true that at the moment there aren't as many NoSoupers, so it would be smarter to give one of the Nosoup Servers to Soup, I think.
    I do think there are enough NoSoupers though. There are games of 30 occasionally, which would be 3 or 4 teams able to play. (Including mercs and those people who don't do teams anyway, that's why its not 6 teams :stuck_out_tongue:)
    I do wish people would use more strategy. And I do have to think up different ways to kill soupers in a Soup game. (I get called a noob often for my efforts, but that's cause a lot of the soupers just want to PvP. :/)

    I think the lack of strategy overall is a problem of the players though, not the game. At least, that's my opinion. :stuck_out_tongue:


    Yeah. Brawl just needs to advertise them more overall. I do think Nosoup would get more players than Soup would if a bunch of players joined, but since there aren't masses of players rushing to join, Soup has more players at the moment.
     
  16. XxCobWebxX

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    Please, this needs to be added! I remember the teams and it was excellent, but changes are definitely required! Rejuvenate the teams!
     
  17. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    Please stop necro-bumping old(er) threads.
     
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