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The only way to continue to sell kits

Discussion in 'Ideas' started by Gohabsgo, May 3, 2016.

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  1. Gohabsgo

    Gohabsgo Well-Known Member

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    So the idea I'm proposing is one that I wouldn't really like as an addition to the game, I feel it would be really different but here me out

    So the EULA states that you can't sell things that don't include everyone on an equal playing field. My idea is that when someone picks a kit in game that means the rest of the server would have access to that kit. For example if someone did /kit jellyfish everyone else in the game would have access to jellyfish just for that game. With games only peaking at around 20 players I think that buying kits would still be worthwhile so you could use that kit whenever you want. It's just like server exp boosters

    Now you might be wondering why I want this to be added even though I don't really like it, and it's simply because HG needs to be making money for brawl because if it's not we won't be getting updates. Under the new EULA HG will make brawl absolutely no revenue and it wouldn't make sense for brawl to put in resources to a server that makes no money for them. And the beauty of this idea is, is that if it didn't work there would be no long term repercussions and the server could be returned to normal

    I know this won't be popular but I really would like you guys to think about why this would make sense.

    Edit: Oh yeah would this even work under the new EULA? Going to tag people that are more knowledgeable about the EULA than me @chickenputty @Lord_Roke
     
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  2. MattM1PVP

    MattM1PVP Ex-HG Staff Member

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    I don't think mojang would allow that, coz although everyone is able to pick the kit that someone chooses, they are still limited in their options, whereas the elite or whatever still can pick from 20 other kits
     
  3. TheMafias

    TheMafias Something wise

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    No this is allowed. The point is to not get the advantage, and with everyone having the same access them it should work. I dislike this idea though. My elite friends could just let me play whatever kit.
     
  4. Gohabsgo

    Gohabsgo Well-Known Member

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    Right but you would always have to be the same kit which would be boring
     
  5. Viva

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    Elite would likely have to be changed for HG for this to be plausible, though I do see it as a viable option. Problem with elite would be that everyone would just get all of the kits, making buying kits somewhat pointless.
     
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  6. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    Small issue with this though - people with lifetime ELITE bought before the EULA changes are getting added won't get their donation perks changed, so people with lifetime ELITE will always have kits. I think people with pre-EULA ranks shouldn't give everyone else kits (so if you're a pre-EULA lifetime MVP, you don't give everyone all the MVP classes).
     
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  7. jarboyp

    jarboyp Bunny Defender

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    I feel that this would ruin the game. For example, if someone goes stomper and another person goes endermage, everyone is going to know that there is an endermage-stomper team. Plus, players will go endermage so they can mage those players down, which kinda ruins towers/traps. I think it would just be better if HG implements an XP system like mcpvp and offer server-wide XP boosts for money.
     
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  8. Gohabsgo

    Gohabsgo Well-Known Member

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    Knowing that there is a tower team isn't even useful information. In the old days we always knew there would be multiple tower teams but that didn't make us go anti tower kits every time
     
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  9. jarboyp

    jarboyp Bunny Defender

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    It would be useful to know that there was a kaya in the game, or a fisherman, or a switcher, or an acrobat.
     
  10. Gohabsgo

    Gohabsgo Well-Known Member

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    Kaya sure, the rest not really as you could use the others in so many different ways. An XP multiplier isn't covering the cost of the server and HG won't be looked after if its not making them money
     
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  11. K0K0S

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    I think that a xp boosters would be good because you could make it so you get very little xp and then people would need an xp booster to level up. (Level up to choose 1 kit you will get)
     
  12. Gohabsgo

    Gohabsgo Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, no way that would support the server
     
  13. BookWyrm17

    BookWyrm17 Active Member

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    So... what if someone chooses their kit at the last moment, specifically so no one else can have it? I think this would simply degrade into everyone waiting until the last moment to choose their kit.
     
  14. Gohabsgo

    Gohabsgo Well-Known Member

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    ..and that would be bad why? The point isn't that everyone can use all the kits it's to make it Eula compliant. This would make it Eula compliant.
     
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    I think it would you begin with 1 kit. Then you level up and you need boosters because you get so little xp otherwise. Then when you level up you got to choose 1 kit.
     
  16. BookWyrm17

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    .....
    That feels like the worst kind of cheating. I mean, seriously? I thought we were gonna be talking about how to actually make it work, but you just wanna fly by on the technicalities.
     
  17. MattM1PVP

    MattM1PVP Ex-HG Staff Member

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    How else would Brawl make money to survive?
     
  18. Gohabsgo

    Gohabsgo Well-Known Member

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    Cheating? What are you even talking about? This helps make brawl Eula compliant if people pick there kits at the last second it has 0 affect on gameplay and you could just have the kit Gui open at the last second if you really wanted to pick a kit. Let's make a non issue an issue. My god
     
  19. BookWyrm17

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    It makes it technically EULA compliant, but it doesn't really make any difference if people only choose their kit at the very last moment. :/ I just don't like the idea of totally bypassing it like that. I mean, I get why. I guess I'm just not the type of person who would want to get by on that.

    I guess this is why I'm not running a server. I don't like to feel like I'm cheating it, but I would need the money.
    I should probably just leave this conversation, cause it doesn't really apply to me anymore. I won't have anything helpful to contribute if its going in that direction.
     
  20. Ayyyylienslmao

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    Good news, your integrity doesn't really seem to be compromised. That'll be great if you want to have a future job in a convent or some sort of pious habitat.



    For what it's worth, there will still be players that will choose their kit right away. It's not as if Kangaroos in games are any sort of secret; a Kangaroo has nothing to gain by waiting until last second to choose kit, because everyone uses Kangaroo for some reason.

    Many many many servers are trying to get by as best as they can because of the EULA. The biggest servers are "living on the edge", by using business models that are just within EULA boundaries.

    "You can get a Mythical chest after a few weeks of playing games on our server, but why do that when you can just pay 4 dollars and get one? But we're still compliant with EULA! You don't have to pay real money!"

    etc etc
     
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