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Let's make war great again

Discussion in 'Ideas' started by Hitchens, Jun 11, 2016.

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  1. Hitchens

    Hitchens Well-Known Member

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    Hi...
    1.x = related to gameplay
    2.x = other stuff

    1.1. No 1 hit kills (except for headshots/shotguns/law) -
    i think that the difference in damage between skully and famas should be reduced. Iso should just be a version of barret50cal with more ammo in my opinion. (I use iso as my main weapon so no hate plz)

    1.2. Decrease in knocback - This would make tame more realistic. Replacing knocback with a 5-15tick long slowness potion could work. Some of you have complained that infect is 2 booring nowadays. I think this could help a little bit.

    1.3. Banning all 35+ players for a month (i prefer something not so radical)- I have a bit of statistic here for you (i did not include myself Edit: int the stats): brawlmath2.jpg
    so this is the statistics off all players in a game yesterday. I have to point out that Lekosa1 would have doubled the amount of kills. I did not believe i would get much out of this little crappy amount of statistic when i collected it. One of the reasons was that i could impossibly collect the amount of kills and deaths during 1 game by all players. But i was still able to get somthing out of it. The total kdr of all active players was around 1(a bit greater than 1 ofc... or lets say atleast under 2) when war was a new and growing game (i do not have statistics to prove this). This was likely true mainly because of the flow of new players. A more important point is that the ratio between low level and high level players was much closer to zero in the old days. This means that low level players killed other low level players much more often. All this means that the game was much more beginner friendly in the past. I know that banning all high lewel players for a month sounds like a bad idea, but is there other ways to solve this problem? i hope there are. 1.4 might work aswell.

    1.4. War reset, why not? (excluding donor weapons ofc) - Less op guns = more fun for newbies

    1.5 new guns - lvl 41/60+ players do not have much to play for. / the fact that donor items will soon be purchasable with credits might solve this problem.

    2.1 the 60+ tag should be yellow & the 30+ tag should be grey

    2.2 The book should be updated
     
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  2. ObamaTheReptile

    ObamaTheReptile Well-Known Member

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    1.1 No. If you can't see the bullets coming at you and try to dodge in time, you're doing something wrong. Tons of low-level guns can oneshot (I've nuked with l118a and usp before) so this isn't a problem

    1.2 This I agree with. It gets really annoying sometimes.

    1.3 This would be actually the worst possible decision on Brawl's part. Banning a huge chunk of the playerbase for a month would radically decrease Brawl's players and have massive consequences on the server's income. Plus, you were talking about kdr in new players vs old players. This difference isn't because the old players have better guns, it's because the old players and played for longer. They've developed playstyles, strategies, and skill and so can out-perform and -play the newer players. I bet if you gave an ISO to a new player and an l118a to an old player the old player would still win by a lot.

    1.4
    Why not? Because it's a terrible idea. This would have consequences of a similar magnitude as banning 35+ players for a month. I really shouldn't have to explain why this is a bad idea since it's been done so many times before, but I'll explain it again: players with high levels and large amounts of kills have worked hard to get to where they are. Personally, I'm level 71 (about) and it took me quite a while to get there. I would certainly dislike it if all of my stats were reset: credits, kills, level, etc. Donor guns would stay and this would cause an even bigger problem. People who are used to using the ISO or skully would resort to minigun or raygun as a way to level up quickly to get those guns again. They then would lose skill in those guns and would continue to use them. All in all, this idea has worse consequences than it does positive effects.

    1.5
    This, again, I agree with.

    2.1 Why? This would cause confusion for a while and as far as I know, this has never been an issue.

    2.2
    Absolutely. The book is a useless piece of inventory space. It really, really needs an update.
     
  3. sjuka_legogubbar

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    I have nuked at level 2 with my alt ._. eZpZ.
    Banning everyone like 35+ would be a really bad idea, there would never be alot of players online then, once when i was on about 70% was 30+. No :V Why old days was better wasnt because of how small the difference was, it was about that there was so many players so that if one or two on each 12 servers was really good then it wouldnt make a big difference for the rest that was online. And another reason was that noone had op guns (donnor guns), yeah i know barret was onehit but people wasnt good enough to use it the right way and just quickscope everyone down.
     
  4. Vincz

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    I'm the best!
     
  5. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

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    I like everything except the reset....

    And I love the stats! Totally agree we need to attract newer players.
     
  6. Vincz

    Vincz Brawl Player

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    Make server 3 a 30- server only
    server 2 and 1 are for everyone.
     
  7. Hitchens

    Hitchens Well-Known Member

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    Ah forgot
    2.3 I do not know how to solve this, but i've however seen some low lvl guys playing alone at war server when there's another with 25 players. This means that the guy does not now that there's 4 war servers/do not how to select wich war server he joins/or something else.

    Edit: Qouted the wrong posrt sorry. My intention was to qoute @ObamaTheReptile

    The problem i presented in 1.3 must be solved. War 2.0 will not be able to gain a much greater playerbase unless its solved. Please, come up with your own solutions. Let's make war great again.

    Graz you have worked your way to lvl 70 on a dying server. Wouldn't it be nicer to play on a server thats growing, even if you it means that you guns and lvls are resetted (not the rest of the stats).

    Pss. It would be nice to have a 30day/1week/1day leaderboard as wildwest.... or actually forever/3day/1week/1day

    I like this idea. 2.3 must be solved before this is added.
     
  8. Vincz

    Vincz Brawl Player

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    I had that. I didn't know until level 20. I just wanted to type /tp, but I typed /ip and then I noticed.
     
  9. ObamaTheReptile

    ObamaTheReptile Well-Known Member

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    1. I'm not coming up with solutions because I don't think it's a problem that needs to be solved.
    2. I was level 70 about a year ago, then switched to warz.
    3. No, it wouldn't be better to have everything I've worked for reset
    4. If I had to come up with solutions to this, I'd say just wait until summer. Then, if that's still not acceptable, wait until Brawl complies with the EULA. This will balance the server and people will be less inclined to leave. Maybe the donor guns could be purchasable at any rank for the large number of credits to give lower levels a chance, but the low levels wouldn't have enough credits until they're higher levels.
    5. I'm sensing you're against opposition to your ideas
     
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  10. Hitchens

    Hitchens Well-Known Member

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    Oh goshmy memory is 'orrible
    I'm against opposition in the sense that i hate opposition without arguments. And i also think that the arguments should be tested.

    I'm not evn sure myseld whether a reset would be a good thing in my opinion.

    My point in 1.3 is that we have a base of skilled quickscopers and other terrible people who makes the game insanely much harder at low levels and therefore makes the game less enjoyable for new players. So in other words we have a community that blocks new members from joining it. This problem must be solved or war will never be that popular again. So the question is (in my opinion) whether the community is willing suffer a bit in order to make war great again. I believe that the issue can be solved in a more effective way. So please, lets try to come up with better ideas.
     
  11. ObamaTheReptile

    ObamaTheReptile Well-Known Member

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    Literally what you're saying here is that skilled players are better than new players and that makes the game bad. Nothing will change this except for actually nerfing guns for specific people.

    I gave arguments. I can list them.

    (Ellipses signify breaks in my post)
     
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  12. Hitchens

    Hitchens Well-Known Member

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    What i am saying is that the game is ultra-hard for new people. That means that they will leave. Wich means that the dying base will not regrow.

    I did not mean that you don't have arguments. The reason i argue is that i want to test the arguments on both sides (of this issue). Which i think i am doing. I'm challenging yours here, and i hope others will challenge my. And honestly, thanks for challenging my opinion.

    Ps. Correct you listed them.
     
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