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Guns Stats and Damages to Various Armors

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  1. randomcitizen1

    randomcitizen1 The schizophrenic swagmoneymillionaire

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    Bodyshot to Kevlar: 2.17600 hearts on average
    Headshot to Kevlar: 4.35200 hearts on average
    RoF: 20 ticks

    Model:
    All bullets hitting body to kevlar - 4.09600 hearts on average
    All bullets hitting head to kevlar - 2.04800 hearts on average
    RoF: 18 ticks

    Sawed off:
    All bullets hitting body to kevlar - 6.14400 hearts on average
    All bullets hitting head to kevlar - 3.07200 hearts on average

    Mauser:
    Bodyshot to Kevlar: 0.896 hearts on average
    Headshot to Kevlar: 1.79200 hearts on average

    Video proving that the sheriff guns do the same damage to D as the illegal guns do to sheriff armor. (Thanks Mario)

    INFORMATION RENDERED OUTDATED BY RECENT UPDATE. NEW VALUES #SOON

    Values of Sheriff Update - 7/29/2016​

    Repeater:
    Body shot to full D - 2.9 hearts
    Headshot to full D - 5.8 hearts

    RoF (Rate of Fire): Fires once approximately every .86 seconds. (69.7674419 RPM) (aka fires 1.1627907 times per second_

    Coach Gun:
    All bullets hitting body to full D - 2.8 hearts
    All bullets hitting head to full D - 5.6 hearts

    RoF (Rate of Fire): Fires once approximately every .86 seconds. (69.7674419 RPM)
    Base DPS (Damage per second): 32.5581395
    DPS to full D all bullets hitting body - 3.25581395 hearts per second
    DPS to full D all bullets hitting head - 6.51162791 hearts per second

    S&W Pistol:
    Body shot to full D - 1 heart
    Headshot to full D - 2 hearts

    T-G:
    Body shot to full D - 1 1/2 hearts
    Headshot to full D - 3 1/2 hearts
    Body shot to sheriff armor - 3.34400 hearts on average
    Headshot to sheriff armor - 6.68800 hearts on average
    Bodyshot to Kevlar: 2.432 hearts on average
    Headshot to Kevlar: 4.864 hearts on average

    Model:​
    All bullets hitting body to full D - 2 hearts
    All bullets hitting head to full D - 4 hearts
    All bullets hitting body to sheriff armor - 3.52 hearts on average
    All bullets hitting head to sheriff armor - 7.04 hearts on average
    All bullets hitting body to kevlar - 2.56 hearts on average
    All bullets hitting head to kevlar - 5.12 hearts on average

    RoF: Fires once approximately every .6 seconds. (100 RPM)​
    Base DPS (Damage per second): 33.3333333
    DPS to full D all bullets hitting body - 3.33333333 hearts per second
    DPS to full D all bullets hitting head - 6.66666667 hearts per second

    DPS to sheriff armor all bullets hitting body - 5.86666667
    DPS to sheriff armor all bullets hitting head - 11.7333333

    DPS to kevlar all bullets hitting body - 4.26666667
    DPS to kevlar all bullets hitting head - 8.53333333


    Mauser:
    Body shot to full D - 1/2 heart
    Headshot to full D - 1 heart
    Body shot to sheriff armor - 1.232 hearts on average
    Headshot to sheriff armor - 2.464 hearts on average
    Body shot to kevlar - 0.896 hearts on average
    Headshot to kevlar - 1.792 hearts on average

    Carcano:
    Body shot to full leather - 4.32
    Headshot to full leather - 8.64
    Body shot to full indian - 3.36
    Headshot to full indian - 6.72
    Body shot to full D - 1.2
    Headshot to full D - 2.4
    Body shot to sheriff armor - 2.11200 hearts on average
    Headshot to sheriff armor - 4.22400 hearts on average​

    RoF: Fires once approximately every .6 seconds. (100 RPM) (aka fires 1.66666667 times per second)
    Base DPS (Damage per second): 20

    Blunderbuss:
    Body shot to full leather - 5.4
    Headshot to full leather - 10.8
    Body shot to full indian - 4.2
    Head shot to full indian - 8.4
    Body shot to full D - 1.5
    Headshot to full D - 3

    Proof of the much disputed damage that sheriff guns do to players. (Recorded 8/31/16)
    Props to MrMonkeyman900 for agreeing to rec this with me and then even send me the video. All credit goes to him.

    Notes: At 4:00, I accidentally have some of the bullets from the Coach Gun hit him in the head the second time I test it. You can tell from the sound the bullets make when it hits him. I get a proper full bodyshot the third time around.


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    Base Gun Damages:
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    This probably won't stay this way seeing as the guns do way too little damage to full D and way too much to sheriffs, but I'll list them anyways for you to see. We just did some testing today, and here are the results.

    Repeater:
    Body shot to full D - 2 hearts
    Headshot to full D - 4 hearts

    Coach Gun:
    All bullelts hitting body to full D - 2 hearts
    All bullets hitting head to full D - 4 hearts

    S&W Pistol:
    Body shot to full D - 1 heart
    Headshot to full D - 1 1/2 hearts

    T-G:
    Body shot to full D - 1 1/2 hearts
    Headshot to full D - 3 1/2 hearts
    Body shot to sheriff armor - 3.34400 hearts on average
    Headshot to sheriff armor - 6.68800 hearts on average
    Bodyshot to Kevlar: 2.432 hearts on average
    Headshot to Kevlar: 4.864 hearts on average

    Model:
    All bullets hitting body to full D - 2 hearts
    All bullets hitting head to full D - 4 hearts
    All bullets hitting body to sheriff armor - 3.52 hearts on average
    All bullets hitting head to sheriff armor - 7.04 hearts on average
    All bullets hitting body to kevlar - 2.56 hearts on average
    All bullets hitting head to kevlar - 5.12 hearts on average

    Mauser:
    Body shot to full D - 1/2 heart
    Headshot to full D - 1 heart
    Body shot to sheriff armor - 1.232 hearts on average
    Headshot to sheriff armor - 2.464 hearts on average
    Body shot to kevlar - 0.896 hearts on average
    Headshot to kevlar - 1.792 hearts on average

    Base Gun Damages
    Video:
    See here.
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    Misc Information:
    Diamond Armor reduces 80% of all damage.
    Sheriff Armor (prot I iron) reduces 64.8% of all damage on average. Can range from 63.2-66.4%
    Kevlar (prot III iron) reduces 74.4% of all damage on average. Can range from 69.6-79.2%
    Due to the way that minecraft calculates damage reduction from enhancements, the damage dealt can vary.

    More Misc Information:
    Prot II Iron reduces 69.6% of all damage on average. Can range from 66.4-72.8%
    Prot IV Iron reduces 84% of all damage on average. Can range from 76%-92%.

    Calculating Damage:
    Base damage describes the amount of half hearts a weapon does. You have a total of 20 half hearts in minecraft. Taking 20 damage is the same as taking 10 hearts of damage. Of course, there is the issue of armor which is where things get a little more complicated. First off, wildwest uses pre-1.9 armor reduction calculations. This is very important as they way armor works changed drastically in 1.9. Here is the 1.8 and below formula:

    Base Damage x Percent Reduced = Damage Reduced in Half Hearts
    Base Damage - Damage Reduced = Damage in Half Hearts
    Damage in Half Hearts/2 = Damage in Minecraft Hearts (Since there are twice as many half hearts as there are normal hearts, this is necessary.)
    Damage in Minecraft Hears x 2 = Headshot Damage in Minecraft Hearts

    Here's an example calculation of how much the repeater does to full D.

    Repeater base damage = 29
    Full D Percent Reduced = 80%
    29 base damage x 80% reduced (.80) = 23.2 damage reduced in half hearts
    29 base damage - 23.3 damage reduced in half hearts = 5.8 damage in half hearts
    5.8 damage in half hearts / 2 = 2.9 damage in minecraft hearts
    2.9 damage in minecraft hearts x 2 = 5.8 headshot damage in minecraft hearts

    Math without descriptions (for less messiness):
    29 x .80 = 23.2
    29 - 23.3 = 5.8
    5.8/2 = 2.9
    2.9 x 2 = 5.8

    Calculating damage done to enchanted armor is way more complicated, and I'm too lazy to post a walkthrough on how to do that at the moment. I might get around to it sometime.

    Notes that are meaningless to you and don't have to do with how minecraft normally calculates damage, but important for me to have here for my own personal reference:
    If you aren't Random, you're wasting your time.
    17 armor points = x 1.12500
    18 armor points = x 1.28571429
    19 armor points = x 1.5
    20 armor points = x 1.8
     
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  2. charlottethegirl

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    Very nice to know all this.
    I see you still haven't found a hobby since your last thread :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  3. RMST1

    RMST1 Ex-Mod I WarZ Noob

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    Yeah, currently the fights between full d's and sheriffs mostly end up with the sheriffs losing...
     
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    Thanks for taking time to make this!
     
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    Turmac Hardcore Games Enthusiast

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    And people say sheriffs are op.... :stuck_out_tongue:
    In b4 rant

    In all honesty though, it looks pretty evened out. Sheriff guns don't 1 shot and neither do full d guns. The reason full d guns do more damage is that the sheriffs can come back and still have their armor while the full d cannot. Thanks for showing this!
     
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  6. RMST1

    RMST1 Ex-Mod I WarZ Noob

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    Evened out? Are you kidding me? A sheriff has to shoot 6 times to kill a full d. A full d only has to shoot twice and the sheriff is dead. I speak out of experience from today.
     
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    Turmac Hardcore Games Enthusiast

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    According to this, repeater only has to hit 3 times. Assuming that you atleast hit 2 head shots. Pistol and shotgun are a different story.
     
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  8. 19Cameron91

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    I should've asked team VK yesterday, how many hearts I was chipping away. They didn't say, "hmm, are your guns UP now?", They were saying, "Get rekt!". Obviously basking in the fact that sheriffs are now UP.
     
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    RMST1 Ex-Mod I WarZ Noob

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    According to this, that information is false. I only do 2 hearts of damage when I headshot full d's which makes it impossible for me to kill them. The only way to stop full d's is handcuffs, but that's practically impossible if they're on a speed horse.
     
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    Yeah, you would have to headshot a full diamond player 5 times, which is really hard to do. The sheriff would get killed first. (7/8/2016 10:01 PM)

    @Verlyn's been telling me that the Carcano does more damage than the Repeater. If so, then that means it does more damage than the T-Gewehr as well.
    The Carcano, cheap, legal, and more powerful than any other gun in the game. Things are really unbalanced in this game right now. (7/12/2016 9:52 AM)
     
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  11. randomcitizen1

    randomcitizen1 The schizophrenic swagmoneymillionaire

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    Update 7/11/16: Nothing's changed, but here is a video showing a damage test that took place on the date mentioned.
     
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    randomcitizen1 The schizophrenic swagmoneymillionaire

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    The thread is back with a load more information. Seeing as there is still a lot of confusion about gun damages, I added some more information. If anyone still has any questions about damages, please ask me here. Use this thread to help inform any arguments you want to bring up. These values and damages are the correct ones as shown by both the math and the video provided.

    Update 8/31/16
    Added:
    New sheriff gun damages.

    More precise illegal gun to sheriff damages (before they were based on the minecraft display in-game. The math is more accurate seeing as damage to enchanted armor varies.)

    DPS for the shotguns

    An updated video to back up the values for the sheriff guns to full D.

    An entire walkthrough on how to calculate armor damage reduction to illustrate where I get the values.


    Tags:
    All of CLAP. We get into many disputes about what the actual values and damages are. You wanted video proof, so here you go.

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    @ClaudeSpeed because you are often involved in those disputes.
     
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